Good and evil: An explanation of how they relate, or just an opinion?

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People have been thinking about good and evil for perhaps thousands of years.

If God is totally good, whence comes evil?

If evil exists, why doesn't the good do more to eradicate it?

This article is an opinion piece, where I offer the reader a few ideas of my own about the problems that these types of questions raise.

Love's way, or your way?

What good does the knowledge of good and evil give to us anyway?

"You must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

This well-known quote is from the Old Testament of the Christian bible. It is taken from the book of Genesis, chapter 2, verse 17.

You will certainly die to your self when you do this, but will you also find yourself too?

Who is the you that will die here, what does bible verse really mean?

The false self, based around finding it from knowledge gained from outside of yourself, will then be exposed, and you will see it as real, and so you might then lose sight of your real innocently alive inner self of love.

Knowledge, or the head, often overrides love, or the heart, and when love dies in you, you will surely die then too, as it says here.

Nature works together as itself for itself as one entity.

The knowledge of good and evil spreads either fear or love because the emptiness of any fullness shows itself to be really an absence of all things that you cause to be problems for yourself, through a lack of understanding of the one fundamental truth, that is that understanding comes only from itself.

You must embrace change, ongoing change, to see that it is not really all just all about change at all.

All is in a constant state of everlasting love being itself in multiple ways. Love each way, and all will be well. Hate any way, and the problems will emerge from yourself, from your holding onto this part of love, and hating it rather than loving it, (by your trying to change it from what it is, or by your not fully accepting it, exactly as it is).

"The snow goose need not bathe to make itself white. Neither need you do anything but be yourself."

The great Chinese philosopher and poet Lao Tzu, 571 BC to 531 BC) said this.

Lao Tzu was the father of Taoism, an ancient system of philosophy and spiritual belief. It talks about your living in harmony with all else, by being your authentic self amongst all else. You are the all within the all, or in other words, you are the "I am" that is you, within the greater "I am" that is God.

Who finds who? It depends on who is doing the looking!

Are we trying to find our real self, or are we letting it find us?

Love is always present. Love is always there. Only love can connect you to your true self.

"There is no evil, there is no suffering; the joy of living is paramount. Look, how everything clings to life, how dear the existence is.

Evil is the shadow of inattention. In the light of self-awareness it will wither and fall off.

The Universe is perfect as a whole, and the part's striving for perfection is a way of joy. Willingly sacrifice the imperfect to the perfect, and there will be no more talk about good and evil.

There is no good and no evil. In every concrete situation, there is only the necessary and the unnecessary. The needful is right, the needless is wrong.

In my world, even what you call evil is the servant of the good and therefore necessary. It is like boils and fever that clear the body of impurities. Disease is painful, even dangerous, but if dealt with rightly, it heals. In some cases death is the best cure.

It is in the nature of all manifestation that the good and the bad follow each other and in equal measure. The true refuge is only in the unmanifested.

Relatively, what causes suffering is wrong; what alleviates it is right. Absolutely, what brings you back to reality is right, and what dims reality is wrong.

Stupidity and selfishness are the only evil."

These quotes are from the great Indian sage, and spiritual teacher, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, (1897 to 1981).

They are all taken from his book, "I AM THAT."

And yet evil still seems to exist, or be existing in our World.

Was Nisargadatta right in what he said here then? What is evil to love?

The fullness of love becomes emptied of itself when any evil enters its fullness, and yet this emptiness is the mere shadow of love, and is not evil either.

He is right, I believe. All is love, loving.

Evil merely exists only within our own minds when we plant it there. Instead of letting our hearts control our minds, we let our mind control our mind, and this by definition is evil.

Jesus Christ once said that even your thoughts are sinful when they are not laced with love, but with lustful or evil intentions instead.

"Anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her."

This is from Saint Matthew's gospel, chapter 5, verse 28.

When we harbour lustful thoughts, it is as much a sin as if we act on these thoughts, Jesus is saying to us here.

If you have stepped away from your real self in order to obtain information or knowledge out there somewhere, or truth from someone else, you have stepped away from your own way of living love (or from love), by your trying to live from somebody's else's truth, or way of love instead.

This perhaps is what sin really is. You are committing a sort of evil by your not being yourself.

Anything that is unloving is by definition then is a type of non-good.

Evil doesn't exist either of course, because a non-good is just another type of good that is less than the perfect form of good that it could be for you when you are being your real self for God.

When we stop being ourselves, we step away from the continuous living energy of love living in us trying to be us.

We then live instead from a false hope that something out there somewhere can save us, or rescue us, somehow so we might find ourselves.

We stop being conscious of our real self then, and so we then live within these unconscious drives artificially created from these false hopes that there is something else out there for us to find that we can use to make things work for us, or to bring everything together, or to help us to live from our own truth.

Nothing can help us do this but ourselves, and yet on the other hand, everything can help us.

This is how love works! This is the paradoxical nature of love!

Good and evil. The law of duality. Spiritual Truth. Divine love

Good and bad, negative and positive, are said to be opposite qualities.

The question could be asked though, what are they opposite qualities of? Only of each other, or is there another principle existing, of which they are both a part of, and which is embodying all else, and is perhaps love?

There is truth in the Law of Duality, on both sides of it.

I have noticed something myself, that happens when I reverse a statement such as,
"the fear of belief," and then reversing it, it then becomes, "the belief of fear". Or, "a doubt of God", becomes for example, "a God of doubt."

There is truth on both sides, in both statements, and included in the reverse side as well.

This other reverse side of truth, perhaps is more subtle, and maybe I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise, without my decidingly looking for the other side, the reverse side.

This is true.

The Law of Duality, is an aspect of the Law of love. Love contains all dualities within it. The Law of Duality contains love on both sides of the duality. Love is truth, truth is love. And so duality is only the extreme poles of anything. Infinity and nothing, nothing and infinity. There is only the oneness of love, but love is infinite, and love can be broken down into its elements.

Good and evil, are both contained within the oneness of love.

It all boils down to our attitude. We see evil, in love, when we are coming from the side of evil. When we jump to the other side of good, we see only good in the World, and in our own World then also.

All states exist in different forms, and duality is just the differing forms of love.

Truth, and good and evil

Truth itself though, is always totally positive, and actually all experiences are totally positive in that they are totally perfect for you now.

Then what is negativity?

Negativity is just not seeing, and being aware of this fact that everything is in fact positive, entirely positive. Positivity is just what is, and is all that is. So, negativity is the ego's response to the soul's direction of total positiveness. It wants to go its own way, and its own way is always negative, if only because it takes you seemingly away from soul, and so away from total positivity.

Negativity is living as anything less than soul.

Soul is naturally a positive happy entity.

When ego influences soul, and soul is too immature yet to positively move past the negative influence of its ego, negative states can, and will then be experienced. As ego works more together with soul, and as soul gains maturity through experience, ego should then only serve soul, as a servant of soul, to monitor soul's experiences, and to show soul both aspects of every experience.

The positive, and the negative aspects are always built into each, and every experience, and this is true, and is not unlike the yin and the yang concept in Chinese philosophy. There is good in the bad, and bad in the good, but this is only so, because good and bad are only divisions, and remain part of divine love.

Good love is totally unconditional love. Bad love is really anything less than this. It's only created in definition, and is just a creation of a scale for love, and consciousness awareness levels.

As we gain experience, and learn from this experience, to follow our own path of truth, we find ourselves increasing in our ability to love, and our level of consciousness rises. We move from unconscious living to more conscious living, until we finally reach, and obtain God consciousness or enlightenment.

The dichotomy of two sides is created in the lower worlds to allow soul not to be fooled into thinking that all is only love. It is indeed, but soul needs to see, and look at the whole of love to understand it more, and look at it under a microscope, and dissect it in, and by experiences of the many different shades, and infinite aspects of love.

Unconscious love must be made conscious love. Dissecting of love, into its many aspects allows love to experience itself, learn consciously from the experience and so to return to itself with greater understanding.

This was the reason for creation, and allows God, or love to move from being unconscious of itself, existing in a nothingness of infinity, to move to an infinity of infinity, gained from its infinite finite parts, or divisions of itself into soul, and created from out of itself.

There is a positive in every negative, and a negative in every positive. So to be truly positive, be positive about every positive, and also positive about every negative, as you look for that hidden positive in every negative.

At the end though, all these experiences, and aspects, and divisions of love into itself, and lesser concepts of itself, will allow you to understand total love more fully, more totally. And so you grow more mature in love by understanding it working at every level better, and you approach your own truth, by understanding how love works in you, and for you in a better, and more conscious way through your experiences of the different aspects of love.

Life is there for humans to use as they see fit, and to gain experiences both good, and bad from it.

As it is true that all life consists of both good, and bad experiences creating different states in you, and therefore different thinking, and so creating in you the possibility of change to higher awareness, and to a higher consciousness level in you.

Self-discovery is removing all the parts of you that you know that you are not, and seeing then what is left.

Deep down now, do you think that you are bad, or evil, or even obnoxious, or angry, or sad?

I don't think so.

If you do think that these states are really, really you, well that is also good, and alright for now. But eventually if you can then think past these states as to what, and who it is that is really experiencing them, and then ask yourself this question, is the "what" that is experiencing them, really these things as well, or is it really just something else. Maybe it is the real you going through all of these different states, for some other real reason, as yet not understood fully.

What could this reason be?

This next question is the second step, after you have accepted the first step, that you are not actually these states.

The reason must be a good one, as if you are not really these states after all, why would you want to enter them?

Life you will find is about contrasts.

All of the lower forms of life work on the principle of duality. To experience happiness strongly, we feel sadness at times. To feel sadness strongly, we compare it with happy times. And then when we have felt both states very deeply, we realise they come from, and have their roots all in the same ground of divine love.

Love grows everything within it. Love contains all within it. Love is all.

It is necessary to grow things from, and in love, as when we do this, we can be aware of, and know what love can really do for you, what it can grow in you, and produce of you.

And so in the grounds of love, you can grow flowers or you can grow vegetables. And both serve their own purpose, and one can perhaps more readily be seen as a beautiful expression of happiness. The other can only be realised to be equally as good, when we know the nutritional benefits possible from eating them.

Initially perhaps a carrot, or a dirty potato looks less inviting than a beautiful rose. But they are all just states of love in development, and when we realise each, and every soul is also growing in this soil of love, we will learn then to respect everyone, and to see that their roots are deeply embedded in love, as we are also. And so we discover that all things originate in love, and love is contained in all things.

This is the third great self-discovery for us. All is love, including ourselves.

All are created in love, from love, and forever grow, as a part of love, attached to the soils of love, without exception. All is only ever love. Good and evil are only ever contained in love, as parts of love. From both good and evil, love can still be seen. Love is the principle behind good and evil, and both originate from love, and both return to love.

Good and evil, grow out from love only as soul isolates a part of love, in an unbalanced way, at the start of its journey.

As a soul learns balance, it will move away from the extremes of both paths, and never be wholly evil, or wholly good ever again, but only ever more loving. Wholly evil never actually exists, as it still contains love. Wholly good is only a definition of one aspect of love. And so to strive to be always wholly good is unbalancing, and neglecting the principle of growth, only possible from embracing this duality of learning.

This duality that is inherently only created by dividing love into its parts, so that the parts recombining become more conscious of itself as the whole, through an understanding gained from the experiencing of itself from both sides, and all sides of itself.

Good and evil, and evil and good, all only ever serve love in some unique, and loving, but perhaps different way. God sees it all in the one way though, all as only ever forms of his love.

For after all, could anything ever exist outside of God's love? No, is my answer. What is yours?

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author avatar brendamarie
5th Oct 2015 (#)

Amazing article, Spirited, there is so much to take in I may have to read it again. Love is everything.

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author avatar spirited
5th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks brendamarie,

what you said sums up my whole article anyway.

"Love is everything"

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author avatar M G Singh
5th Oct 2015 (#)

Great share

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author avatar spirited
5th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks Madan

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author avatar peachpurple
5th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks for writing this article, good or bad depends on how you look at them and your trust in your religion

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author avatar spirited
5th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks peachpurple,

A lot of things do depend on how we look at them like that, or about what our attitude is towards something.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
5th Oct 2015 (#)

Good and evil, as we see them, are inherent in the creative process - sort of two sides of the same coin. Is lion evil and lamb good? Are humans evil if we kill other species to eat when we have alternatives? Even the most God fearing are guilty in that case! Vegetarians like me can also be termed evil from another angle!

Destruction and creation are also part of the same coin. Volcanic soil is fertile, so volcanoes cannot be termed as unwanted as they form part of the creative process.

I feel we are given a great spread for us to make our own choices. We should not purposely tread the path of evil; and if we do should quickly retrace the steps!

Thought provoking share Spirited, thanks - siva

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author avatar spirited
5th Oct 2015 (#)

"Good and evil, as we see them, are inherent in the creative process"

This does seem to be true siva, but are they both present in the creator then too, as the tendencies for good and evil are in us as well?

"As above, so below" goes an old maxim.

Perhaps God is evil in his goodness, and good in his evildoing.

As peachpurple said above, it all really depends on your viewpoint, or does it?

Is God wholly good, as the bible says he is, that is without sin, etc., etc., or not?

Nobody else has God's viewpoint I suppose.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
6th Oct 2015 (#)

Too much of good can lead to complacency and that is why I wonder how heaven will turn out to be, but I think it should be better than hell though the latter can turn out to be one hell of a place of fun with lots of gallows humor all day long! siva

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author avatar spirited
6th Oct 2015 (#)

maybe they are both cities in the same country then LOL,

thanks siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
6th Oct 2015 (#)

Yes Spirited, with CCTV to show the difference of what is going on and drive home the point!

Hopefully, technology will catch up soon so that we have a live channel 24/7 to enable us to make amends, repent too, before our time is up here. But overlapping of times of life might be censored - by you know who! siva

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author avatar Carol Roach
7th Oct 2015 (#)

I am sorry I do not agree evil exists, killing someone is evil, raping and killing someone is evil and so on

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author avatar spirited
7th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks Carol, that's why I wrote this piece up as an opinion piece. People are sure to disagree with others opinions, at times.

Some of the "truths" (or beliefs) of others will nearly match your own, but never exactly so.

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author avatar Fern Mc Costigan
7th Oct 2015 (#)

Interesting post Spirited, very wise words and well explained, cheers!

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author avatar spirited
7th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks Fern

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author avatar Kingwell
14th Oct 2015 (#)

Another fantastic article and another that I need ponder further,your wring really gives us all food for thought. I do not think of people as good and evil but only as different. A new born child is innocent, with the exception of fears that it may have picked up from it's mother as she reacts to what is happening around her. I am of the opinion that evil if learned here and may be a product of fear. According to the Bible, all that God created was good (See Genesis Chapter 1).we are told in the New Testament (Gospel of John Chapter 1) that all things were made by God and without him, nothing was made. This would seem to be telling us that evil is real only to us while we are in the physical. Blessings.

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author avatar spirited
18th Oct 2015 (#)

thanks for your kind words of encouragement Kingwell.

There is a lot in life to ponder on.

Here is my take on love and evil.

Fears are not learned, but come about showing their face in you only when love has not blossomed enough yet to replace their weeds, with its flowers.

Love originates in heaven and so do these potential weeds all also originate within heaven. Evil is just a lesser form of love, because all is love. This is hard to accept for some, but without this knowledge, you will always hang onto your fears.

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author avatar onenow
5th Nov 2015 (#)

There is a lot to consider in this piece and while I am not sure I was clear on what was being said, always, I really liked many parts of this piece. In particular I loved this statement: "Love is always present. Love is always there. Only love can connect you to your true self."

Thanks for sharing such a thought-provoking piece.

- Elliott

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author avatar spirited
5th Nov 2015 (#)

thanks for your encouraging comments onenow

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