Jesus and Reincarnation.

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Did Jesus and his disciples believe in reincarnation?

Early Christians and Reincarnation.

Christians are often surprised to learn that many members of the early church believed in reincarnation. Many have no idea that it was more than five hundred years after the death of Jesus that reincarnation was formally declared a heresy by the church and this at the time of the roman emperor Constantine who had not yet become a Christian! Constantine wanted to make Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire but before he would do so there had to be some changes.
There are also those who claim that there is nothing in the Bible as we have it today that would suggest any possibility of life before we are born into the body that we now occupy. I do not intend here to use all the Biblical quotations that have been put forward by those who say that the Bible supports the theory of rebirth or even preexistence but rather I want to look at just two instances in the gospels that seem to suggest, in my opinion at least, that Jesus and some, if not all, of his disciples believed in reincarnation.

The Man Who Was Born Blind.

“And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered: Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him”. John 9:1-3.
The healing of the man born blind which is recorded in the ninth chapter of St. John’s Gospel seems to have taken place in the old city of Jerusalem and caused quite a stir at the time. However it is not the miracle that I want to speak about today but rather the conversation between Jesus and his disciples when they first encountered the man who had not been able to see since birth. Medical science was not advanced as it is today and when such things happened, the people of the day always attributed it to sin. It wasn’t unusual than that it was the first thing that the disciples thought about – what is strange is the way that they phrased the question that they put to their master. “Who sinned, this man or his parents that he was born blind”? John 9:2 How could the man have sinned before he was born unless he had been alive somewhere else? Did Jesus correct them by saying the man could not have sinned since he was not yet born? No, he simple said “Neither hath this man sinned nor his parents”! This conversation tells me that both Jesus and the disciples believed that the man had been alive before he was born into this world.

John The Baptist And Elias

"For all the prophets and the law have prophesied until John; and if you are willing to receive it, he is Elias who was to come." (Matthew 11:13-14
This exchange (Mark 9: 10-13) took place after Jesus had taken Peter, James and John up into a high mountain where they had witnessed the transfiguration of Jesus and had seen him talking with Moses and Elias. (This can be read earlier in the same chapter) Apparently these three apostles were now convinced that Jesus was the messiah who had been prophesied about but were having problems understanding it. They asked Jesus: “why then say the scribes that Elias must first come”? Jesus replied that it was true that Elias must first come but then he goes on to say that Elias had come already but they did not know him and had done unto him as they wished. Then we are told: “the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist”.
In Matthew’s gospel Chapter 11we read of how John the Baptist who was now in prison, had sent two of his disciples unto Jesus asking: “Art thou he who should come or do we look for another”? Matthew 11:3. Jesus answered by saying: “Go and shew John again those things which you do hear and see the blind receive their sight and the lame walk the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear the dead are raised and the poor have the gospel preached to them. And blessed is he who is not offended in me” Matthew 11: 4-6. After they had left Jesus began to speak unto the crowds about John the Baptist. During the discourse he says: "For all the prophets and the law have prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elias who was to come." (Matthew 11:13-14
Having read both these passages many times and always being careful to take it in context with the full chapter, I am convinced that Jesus was saying that John the Baptist was the reincarnation of the spirit that was Elias.

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
27th Apr 2015 (#)

"Except that a man be born again, he shall in no way enter the kingdom of heaven." Of course he knew reincarnation as a fact. Great post Kingwell.

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author avatar Kingwell
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you Steve. I didn't use that quote because it is used so often to mean something completely different. Blessings

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author avatar Joginder
27th Apr 2015 (#)

This is a great post sir. I was sure Jesus believed in reincarnation as he had close affinity to Buddhist thought

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author avatar Kingwell
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you Joginder. Blessings.

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author avatar M G Singh
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Jesus believed in reincarnation. I have had no doubt about it. Great post that ignites the mind and brings out the universal effect of eastern thought.

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author avatar Kingwell
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you Madan. Blessings.

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author avatar Retired
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Constantine did not want to come back as a lowly, poor person, so he had the concept of reincarnation removed from the 'official' state religion.

And now we are all the poorer for it...

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author avatar Kingwell
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you Christopher and I agree, also church leaders knew it would be easier to control people. Blessings.

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author avatar micheal
27th Apr 2015 (#)

great post, really interesting, I am really glad that people all over the world are no longer being fed the rubbish they are being given. great article.

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author avatar Kingwell
27th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you michael. Blessings.

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author avatar Carol Roach
29th Apr 2015 (#)

You know this is very interesting I had never thought of it before. Please continue with this series throughout the bible I really enjoy it

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author avatar Kingwell
29th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you Carol. I am hoping to continue the series. This particular part is on the book of Genesis. Any future work will have other titles. Blessings.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
30th Apr 2015 (#)

We tend to pick those from scriptures that suit us and highlight them, while glossing over those that are inconvenient truths.

Now the young are more questioning and in places like India religion does not compartmentalize. Thanks for shining much light Kingwell - siva

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author avatar Kingwell
30th Apr 2015 (#)

Thank you Siva. Most Christians read this and never see the obvious message. Blessings.

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author avatar jjmyles
1st May 2015 (#)

A very interesting post. We also must consider Hebrews 9:27 when we look at this topic; It say's
" And just as it is appointed to the children of men to die once, and after their deaths the judgment," this is from the translated Aramaic version. This scripture seems to indicate that there is only one life for each of us. Iam sure that this is a very interesting study to be researched.

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author avatar Kingwell
1st May 2015 (#)

Thank you jimyles.I agree that the author of Hebrews, whether it is Paul or another, seems to be saying that we die only once. Consider though that each time that we enter the earth we are a different person and for example Jane Smith would die only once. If that soul returns as Mary Jones, then Mary Jones dies once. Just my thoughts of course because this post was about Jesus and what appeared to be his thoughts on the subject. That is why I did not quote from others here. I'm very pleased that you chose to comment and hope that you will continue to do so. Blessings.

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author avatar Retired
1st May 2015 (#)

After each of us die, we review our own lives (to see where we went wrong/how we could have done better). That is the judgement. We judge ourselves. Then we're given yet another chance to make it right, by returning to life on earth in another body.

What most people think is that this is the Last Judgement. However, that won't happen until the end of time.

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author avatar Kingwell
1st May 2015 (#)

Hi Chris, I agree about the review and that we judge ourselves. I feel that although we return here many times, there are also other realms that we experience. I'm not sure that I believe in a 'last judgement', at least not in the sense that most people think of it. Pleased with your comment. Blessings.

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author avatar spirited
7th May 2015 (#)

Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I shall return there. (Job 1:21)

It seems Job in the old Testament believed in reincarnation too.

He's saying here that we are returned again and again through our mother's womb.

Interesting topic this one, Kingwell.

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author avatar Kingwell
7th May 2015 (#)

Thank you spirited and we agree. There are many biblical statements that refer to reincarnation. In this post II simply concentrated on Jesus.

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author avatar Kingwell
7th May 2015 (#)

Blessings spirited.

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