Moderation of Comments on, "This is What Happens as a Result of "Christian" Gay Bashing!

Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.Starred Page By Ivyevelyn, R.S.A., 28th Jun 2012 | Follow this author | RSS Feed | Short URL http://nut.bz/41bcmqub/
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Comments, given in a respectful manner, but contrary to the author's beliefs, are being deleted, but attacks are made and allowed to remain on the page.. These are attacks, i.e. accusing me (Ivyevelyn) of needing, "a sexual experience with another woman" and being told to "*** OFF, should be revealed, not deleted to "clean up" the page and leaving the author and his follower's undisputed opinions.

Non-Activist Gays by a Non-Activist Heterosexual..

I have probably worked with many homosexuals who are intelligent, responsible and good company, in that they do not enact or promote their lifestyle. I do not promote or enact my lifestyle, thereby there is mutual respect. If a male colleague cuddled up to another male and made an exhibition of his lifestyle, I would feel uncomfortable and attempt to withdraw from the situation.
If two females are demonstrating their lesbian lifestyle in public, I would not advocate killing them, as accused by Steve Kinsman. I would avoid them! However, if the two females, as described in Steve Kinsman's article, were in a public place and acting out their lesbian behavior, then they might be demonstrated against by some member of the general public, even to the point of killing them. These two girls were placing themselves, in public, amongst a variety of individuals, some violently against homosexuality, some complacent, some indifferent, some embarrassed and offended. No, of course they should not have been killed but it might have been preferable and safer for them to "get a room".
The two lesbians on the right sold $1 tickets to see them kiss. Now they at least made some money on their public display of affection!

Origin of the Problem.

i (ivyevelyn) commented that if homosexuals refrained from giving offensive displays of their relationship in public, i.e., two men, or two women, kissing and/or clutching at each other, then they might not incite an adverse reaction. Heterosexuals do not usually demonstrate overt affection in public but, of course, this displays the normal love of a female/male relationship and does not arouse controversy.

After writing a comment regarding this, I was accused of agreeing that two females, obviously displaying overt affection in public, should be killed! This is absolute nonsense.

Obscene Remarks

I have been accused of "desiring a sexual relationship with another woman", which I find disgusting and I was also told to *** OFF several times. (I believe this was on another page, "Musings on something or other"). I doubt if this (my) page will be published but I will certainly publish it elsewhere if it is excluded from Wikinut.

A moderator allowed a remark saying that I was a "silly woman", along with other derogatory statements, to remain on his page, also the statement that the commenter agreed with the moderator's opinion about me, (implying that he/she had special knowledge of his opinion about me). The moderator allowed this to remain, undisputed.

Definition of Attacks.

Pages are being written and comments invited;. however, it is apparent that some authors are deleting fair and respectful comments offering another opinion, and allowing insulting attacks to remain on their page.
Apparently, if we have a different opinion to an author, we might be subject to having our comments deleted, but attacks will remain. Attacks are not responses made in a respectful way, attacks are. i.e., telling the commenter to **** OFF, accusing the author of desiring a homosexual experience with another woman, along with other personal insulting remarks. If a particular moderator writes a page, then allows those supporting his beliefs to remain on his page, but deletes those who have contrary beliefs, he is guilty of censorship of free speech.

Lack of Respect towards Commenters.

If a comment is given in a fair, respectful, and constructive manner, it should not be deleted just because it is contrary to the author/moderator's beliefs or opinions.

Insulting and spiteful comments, (if they support the author's opinion, in this case a moderator), and they are aimed at another commenter then they are allowed to remain. There is a certain amount of brown-nosing involved..

Here we have a moderator holding rule.

An example of the 1% on Wikinut.

However, I will remain for now, ready for insults and offensive comments, as I have no fear of those who choose to bombard me with hurtful remarks.

I cannot be hurt as I wear the cloak of my belief in Jesus Christ and his teachings.

The Teaching of the Bible.

Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. He said to His people Israel, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13). In these passages homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin, a sexual perversion. The Christian can neither alter God's viewpoint nor depart from it.
Now that "times have changed", the Bible and my beliefs have not changed.

There goes my chance for a Star!

As a Star on a page does not seem to rate anything, I am not too disappointed. In fact, I would prefer that 'freedom of speech' is instituted on "Wikinut". Also, disrespectful and insulting comments should not be allowed to remain just because they are supporting the author and then deleted when a protest is made..
As a mere writer on 'Wikiut", those who find value in a star will no doubt "black list" me and this does not really concern me either.
These are my views on the page entitled, "This is What Happens as a Result of "Christian" Gay Bashing! There was a killing! There was also a lot of "back-stabbing, denial, incorrect accusations, insults and a certain amount of loss of respect. If the page was written to garner attention, it certainly did that; maybe it should have been written with an open mind, addressing causes, educational information and with humanity, i.e., the deplorable number of those on the streets who are uneducated, gang-oriented, jobless and hopeless.

God Bless Us All!

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
28th Jun 2012 (#)

Comments can be deleted by wither the page author, or an administrator or moderator; no one else. The question of when comments should be deleted is a powerful question.

I have approved comments against my articles too early in the past which has meant that I cannot remove them at a later date. I would tend to agree the offensive personal comments should be removes - there is no call for that kind of behaviour. Generally I feel that even the most critical of comments should be left for all to see, even if they oppose the author's view.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
28th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you so much, Peter. My faith in Wikinut has been restored. The confirmation of a star for this work is so rewarding. I have always sensed your belief in fair play.
Kind regards, Ivyevelyn.

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
29th Jun 2012 (#)

Somewhat as Steve mentions below I will moderate an article from the viewpoint of whether it should be published. I do not have to agree with it; indeed that does not stop me being the first person to argue against the article.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Peter: I accept, and will not delete, all arguments for and against my page. I also leave the insults on the page so that their author is held accountable.

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author avatar David Reinstein,LCSW
28th Jun 2012 (#)

Good to see an open dialogue on this sensitive subject opened up.

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
28th Jun 2012 (#)

You have taken my words entirely out of context. I never wrote that you commented these girls should be killed, and you know it. I also removed the comment about 'silly woman' that you say I left in. Get your facts straight before go off all half cocked with untruths. For god's skae - let it go. Your anger will kill you otherwise.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

You also deleted the comment mentioning that I thought the girls should be killed.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
28th Jun 2012 (#)

Lighten up, Steve! I am proud that my issues have been published, with a star. I can't prove what has been deleted. Nor do I need to, and you need to start acting like an impartial moderator.

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
28th Jun 2012 (#)

I am an impartial moderator, but I am a partial observer of what people write, as are we all. You keep accusing me of things I'm not. I'll tell you what - I will stop commenting on your pages if you will do me the honor of not commenting on mine.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
29th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you so much, Steve! I am delighted that you will no longer moderate my pages and I certainly do not expect to gain anything by reading yours. The words, "rabble rouser" comes to mind. Now move on, Steve!

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author avatar David Reinstein,LCSW
28th Jun 2012 (#)

This is beginning to sound like there is a need to either 1) move the back-and-forth between Ivy and Steve to a direct and more personal venue, or 2) drop it as it seems to be going nowhere,

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

David: I agree, but I now feel vindicated and reassured that insults and accusations are unacceptable. I have never resorted to personal insults and slurs. I would only move my communications to a direct and more personal venue with those whom I respect. However, there are times when I must defend myself against negative and cruel remarks. Thank you, David.

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author avatar Charles
30th Jun 2012 (#)

u r a liar as you have insulted many people on their pages...

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author avatar Jack Vorster
29th Jun 2012 (#)

Moderators should be totally impartial and not be allowed to make supportive comments on pages containing vitriolic attacks on certain belief groups. Secondly, why do moderators invite complaints if complaints are totally ignored.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you, Jack. You summed up in a few words what it has taken me a whole page to convey.

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author avatar Md Rezaul Karim
29th Jun 2012 (#)

Delicate and sensitive issue for me, I am less qualified to participate in this debate. But my position is related to religion and morality.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you, Rezaul. My position is also related to religion and morality, and to the importance of respect for each other.

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author avatar Charles
30th Jun 2012 (#)

u do not even know what respect and integrity mean...

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author avatar Md Rezaul Karim
30th Jun 2012 (#)

So far I understood the problem started long long time ago, most probably with the starting up of civilization but it might be in different shapes or nature or whatever. I believe the time of Ibrahim (PBUH) the community of Luth was destroyed for this acts which Allah did not support or liked.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you, Rezaul. I fully appreciate your comment. May we consider, "Where is Babylon the Great? Where is the idolatry of Hollywood and television and the wickedness they portray. This evil has been exported world wide!! Besides idolatry, there is arrogance; pride; greed; rebellion; witchcraft; legalized murder of unborn babies; acceptance of homosexuality as a normal alternative lifesyle; evil music with evil lyrics; pornography. Even though other nations of the world are also guilty of these sins, The United States is the world leader, it sets the trends of the world! It is commonly called the American Pop Culture, that is, the "American way of life" that is exported world wide.
Babylon is with us here, right now! The Lord will destroy Babylon.

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author avatar kaylar
29th Jun 2012 (#)

Jamaica is one of the most homophobic nations in the world and proud of it.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you for commenting, Kaytar. However, I do not condone or recognize homophobia. I believe that displaying a sexual orientation in an inciteful and provocative manner, lacks respect for those or a different orientation. Hatred or violence to express disagreement with a certain sexual orientation is unGodly, and against the Law.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

I have not made any changes to my page since Peter "approved and agreed to publish". The only changes I did make were to correct a spelling error and an incorrectly hi-lighted word, i.e., "not". Ethically, I would not make changes to my page, but then of course it has to be re-reviewed.
I should have added, as I included Steve's name, the name of Jerry who wrote that, "I needed the experience of a sexual relationship with another woman", amongst other derogatory remarks, and cnwriter's name who told me at least twice to "**** off" called me a "silly woman", along with other derogatory remarks, and she also implied that she agreed with Steve's opinion of me, i.e. obviously the implication was made that Steve's opinion of me was the same as hers.
I have never seen a page written by Jerry...... (his last name eludes me). He only seems to appear to make usually "explosive" comments.

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author avatar Charles
30th Jun 2012 (#)

I read she said piss off which is not derogatory at all ...perhaps you do need a good fk...

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author avatar kaylar
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Jerry is a naturally offensive commentator, and often creates duals and guests to 'support' his views.

One of the points is that America is NOT the world. Western 'morality' is not the World.

For example, my godson lives in Montenegro. If you travel there, you are informed as you enter that homosexuality is not acceptable, and being tossed out of Montenegro is not unusual.

One must appreciate this fanatical support of homosexuality is swinging of a pendulum; Alan Turing, who broke the Nazi code, who was vital for the development of computers was hounded, arrested, prosecuted, and may have commited suicide. Because he was Gay this man never received the honours he ought from the British Government which now is so vociferious in its support of homosexuality.

This change of 'algorithm' has been shoved down the throats of others, so they naturally vomit.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

I have just added my name as one of your followers. The comment you made on my page is extremely interesting to me; you have great insight on what I call the, "Gay Rights" infiltration into our code of morals. Thank you, and I look forward to reading your published pages.
Ivyevelyn.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Ah, Kaylar and Ivyevelyn are now bedmates.Oh, by the way, Kaylar can you prove any of that bull shit your pitching about me creating Duals and Guests to post my comments? When I post a comment to one of you bull shit artists i want everyone to know it was me. Unlike you Kaylar I don't hide behind a dozen different screen names. Now you two go and have a good time together.

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author avatar kaylar
30th Jun 2012 (#)

yes I can Jerry, and you know I can prove it. I caught you doing this on Hubpages.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
30th Jun 2012 (#)

You keep telling me that, girly, and you keep telling me that you are going to see me in court, to which I keep replying, Please do" so either shit or get off the pot.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you, Jerry.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Crawl back to your coven, little _itch.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Thank you, Jerry.

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author avatar Buzz
30th Jun 2012 (#)

It's very sad and unfortunate to see people involved here closest to me, now at loggerheads, except Charles whoever he is. I must admit I've become (or evolved to be) a bad boy of Wiki but while I can't imagine mutual friends thrashing each other this way, I would respect each other's opinion by staying at a neutral corner and not commment any further, except to remind everyone of Ivyevelyn's condition (the "C" in that word). Please dear friends, enough. Ivy, stop, don't have the last word ad infinitum.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Buzz! What do you mean, my condition? I am not pregnant! I am very well and can handle any comments, whether negative or positive. How dare you, Buzz!
Love, Ivyevelyn.

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author avatar kaylar
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Buzz, Jerry is a miserable old man. He even wrote an offensive article about me which was published right her on Wiknut.

Anyone reading the comments on this article have no doubt of his nature.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Hey, Broom Hilda, read my comment above...I'm waiting for you to make good on your stupid threat to take me to court.

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author avatar kaylar
30th Jun 2012 (#)

I never said I was going to take you to court...have you forgotten to take your medication today or is your Alzheimers out of control?

very post you make discredits you...no one else. Why should I try to stop you from making a fool out of yourself?

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author avatar Jerry Walch
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Seems to be that you like to practice selective memory. As for medication, I have a happy pill for you, do you want to hop on your girlfriend's broom and fly on over here to get it?

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Joyous news! Ring the bells! I found Steve peeping in on one of my pages on June 29th. This is after he left me high and dry on this page on June 28th. Does this mean he will be commenting on my pages again! I do hope so! I miss him already!.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
30th Jun 2012 (#)

Buzz, you are not a bad boy. You are a lovable, huggable sweet soul.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

I have just deleted my comment on my own page in which I suggested a truce with Steve. He ignored me so that offer has been cancelled to avoid any misunderstanding.. Steve does not want me to comment on his pages. I wonder why?

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author avatar Retired
1st Jul 2012 (#)

I am not going to touch this with a ten foot poll. But it is good to hear each person's opinion.
P E A C E.

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author avatar Jack Vorster
1st Jul 2012 (#)

They ought to make a movie out of this page.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
1st Jul 2012 (#)

Thank you, Jack. I will be playing 'Snow White", Jerry will be playing "Grumpy", Peter will be playing "Doc", ICANANSWER will be playing "Bashful", we can call Charles "Sleepy" because he pops up every now and again, probably doesn't know anything other than to throw in an insult, and could well be Jerry's understudy, "Happy" is Mark Gordon because he is on his Hobby Farm. I nominate Jack for Director with Steve as Stage Manager. David is a critic who is trying to close down the movie. Kaylar is in the front row of the audience and loudly protesting. We have Buzz as "Peter Pan" just dropping in from another set to try to moderate.

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author avatar Jack Vorster
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Thanks Ivyevelyn. When last did I have such an early morning gut laugh! Good to see you have a sense of humour.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
1st Jul 2012 (#)

I offered my condolensces, I mean apologies, to Steve but he is being "cool" and has not responded, although I did catch him commenting on one of my pages to a previous commenter on June 29th after displaying his displeasure and removing me from his list.on June 28th, i.e., I must not read his pages and he will not comment on mine. How do I feel ,,,,chagrined!..

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author avatar Clarence Schreiber
1st Jul 2012 (#)

Ivy, I will message you my comment.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Jack: When I read through the comments on this page, I just laugh and laugh. Some, of course, do tend to "rattle my cage".

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author avatar Jack Vorster
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Ivyevelyn, if Clarence tries to change the script behind everyone's back, then I am resigning.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Jack: Now that last comment of yours just sent me into hysterical laughing. I am telling Clarence that he is free to say anything he likes on my page and it will not be deleted. He is a dear soul however and probably is requesting a lead role.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

I would like to add that as Steve has not agreed to call a truce, that means he does not want me to comment on his pages and he will not moderate on mine. I wonder why he doesn't want me to comment on his pages. I demand freedom of speech as given to all other authors.
Steve will not be operating in the full capacity of a moderator if he only wants comments from certain writers.
Thank you!

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author avatar Jack Vorster
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

It seems that ICANANSWER has pole-vaulted herself right into this movie with her ten foot pole. I hope we all get Oscar nominations.

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author avatar Jack Vorster
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

It seems that ICANANSWER has pole-vaulted herself right into this movie with her ten foot pole. I hope we all get Oscar nominations.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

ICANANSWER might have to pole-vault herself out the movie if she doesn't have anything constructive to say. I think we should all get Oscar nominations, even Jerry, but Charles should not be included. Charles might well be Jerry in drag because he sounds very subservient in following up Jerry's insults and is probably a female alter ego. I remain as Snowhite. Actually, I think Steve should be removed as Stage Manager and demoted to scene shifter.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

ICANANSWER might have to pole-vault herself out the movie if she doesn't anything constructive to say. I think we should all get Oscar nominations, even Jerry, but Charles should not be included. Charles might well be Jerry in drag because he sounds very subservient in following up Jerry's insults and is probably a female alter ego. I remain as Snowhite. Actually, I think Steve should be removed as Stage Manager and demoted to scene shifter.

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author avatar Jack Vorster
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

This movie is now definitely about to become the comedy of all time. I've never laughed so much ever at one single page of script.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Ivyevelyn, if you don't want me back on your case again, keep my name out of your comments. As for you remaining "Snowhite', you're as snow-white as a sow wallowing in a pig sty.

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author avatar Jack Vorster
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

I might add that this beats the movie, "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World" by a long shot.

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author avatar The Chief Not
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

What a relief this is over as you've been in my short list of female moderators here, Dame Ivyevelyn.

LOL, this is Buzz. C'mon Ivy, engaging in banditry is not good for your health. Cheers!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

B...U...Z...Z ! (He might still think I'm pregnant). Buzz, I need your moderation on the Moderation of Moderation of Comments on, "This is What Happens as a Result of "Christian" Gay Bashing!
Buzz, AKA Peter Pan, fly in from the wings. You should know that I offered a gloved hand to Steve but he is unresponsive. Comment required, please Buzz! Steve is how a half..... (I mean 'disabled') moderator as he is selective of his commenters. I am excluded and I demand the right of free speech. I have never used expletives or been disresptful in any of my comments on another author's page. I have maintained composure and respect, despite Steve telling me that "anger will kill me". This is a "below-the-belt" punch, particularly as you, Buzz, implied that I was pregnant.
I have no anger at all, only surprise and disappointment in the lack of regard for my personal feelings!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

B...U...Z...Z ! (He might still think I'm pregnant). Buzz, I need your moderation on the Moderation of Moderation of Comments on, "This is What Happens as a Result of "Christian" Gay Bashing!
Buzz, AKA Peter Pan, fly in from the wings. You should know that I offered a gloved hand to Steve but he is unresponsive. Comment required, please Buzz! Steve is how a half..... (I mean 'disabled') moderator as he is selective of his commenters. I am excluded and I demand the right of free speech. I have never used expletives or been disrespectful on any of my comments on another author's page. I have maintained composure and respect, despite Steve telling me that "anger will kill me". This is a "below-the-belt" punch, particularly as you, Buzz, implied that I was pregnant.
I have no anger at all, only surprise and disappointment in the lack of regard for my personal feelings, pregnant or not! (I must admit to a certain amount of uncontrollable laughter).

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

* commenter is preferable to commentator in this context.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Dear Peter: Please take your inspirational thoughts to another page.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

I have deleted an unnecessary comment from Peter who has a honey farm.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Jerry is back! I have only deleted one comment from this page from a Peter in Canada who is running a honey farm. It had no significance to this page and his main complaint was that it took a long time to down-load. Other than that he was quite polite and I just deleted it on a whim. (Taking up space).

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Oh, I forgot about Jerry!

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author avatar Jerry Walch
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

Oh, I will not let you forget me since you are so determined to keep mentioning me. I don't have any idea who Peter is but if he has a "Honey" farm he sure as hell wouldn't want you on it.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
2nd Jul 2012 (#)

If I was on it, Jerry, I would scoop up some of the honey and give you a great big spoonful to sweeten you up. Your role of "Grumpy" remains unchanged.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
3rd Jul 2012 (#)

Neither has your role as a closed-minded, judgmental _itch.

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author avatar Buzz
3rd Jul 2012 (#)

Ivy, dear, the acrimony stops here. An event calls for reconciliation and I know, Steve, the patriotic friend as well as cnwriter, equally lovable as other dear American friends here, will agree to bury the hatchet.

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
5th Aug 2012 (#)

Jack: I have read through this page again because of a comment from my "Ode to Steve Kinsman". Once again, I hope you join me in a re-read of this amusing page, comparable to the movie script of, "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World".

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author avatar Jack Vorster
6th Aug 2012 (#)

In that movie they eventually found the treasure under the big "W". And in this saga you have been the treasure all the time - also under the big "W" of Wikinut.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
6th Aug 2012 (#)

Thank you, Jack! Such a delightful remark. I must admit I felt stomped on a few times but I am glad I struggled to my feet and, with your support, I think the opposing forces backed down!

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author avatar Jerry Walch
6th Aug 2012 (#)

Ah! We have a love fest in the making here!

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author avatar Mathitu
6th Aug 2012 (#)

That was intriguing. No need to borrow snow white you guys already have your own movie all i need is a title and a job on it (But not a role) Ivy I just added you as I need to hear more from you and Jerry, lol from Kenya I believe there is still some untapped goodness in you. My grandpa used to be like that but he passed on now and believe it or not i miss him.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
6th Aug 2012 (#)

Hello, Mathitu: I am pleased to hear from you. I know you miss your grandpa and I hope you stay with us on these pages. I believe that Jerry has quietened down now.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
6th Aug 2012 (#)

Have I?

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author avatar Mathitu
7th Aug 2012 (#)

Yes you have Jerry and frankly am surprised to see you are not as bad as i thought, you are a really nice person when you want to be.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
7th Aug 2012 (#)

No I haven't Mathitu. As far as me being a very nice person when I want to be, people who really know me will tell you that I can either be someones best friend or I can be their worse nightmare. I take no prisoners and I give no quarter. Which side of me someone gets depends on that person. I neither forgive nor forget. If I have been quiet it was only because Ivyevelyn, your precious Ivyevelyn, had the sense to keep my name out of her bigoted mouth until now.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
7th Aug 2012 (#)

He's back!

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author avatar Jerry Walch
7th Aug 2012 (#)

Yes, I am back because you were foolish enough to use my name. Be very careful before you start feeling stomped on again witchy baby!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
7th Aug 2012 (#)

Jerrry: You are not invited to visit my page.
If I was at the White House talking with the President about air pollution, and your name came up, that does not mean you can barge into the White House. You will be shot at the gates!

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author avatar Jerry Walch
8th Aug 2012 (#)

Hey, little trampy witch, I will barge in on your pages anytime I want to and if that bit about being shot at the gate is suppose to scare me, I live in Colorado Springs on E. Bijou street, grab your gun and I'll meet you at my gate..I would love that!

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author avatar Jerry Walch
8th Aug 2012 (#)

Hey, twit, I will barge in on your pages anytime I want to and if that bit about being shot at the gates is supposed scare me, why not come visit me. I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado at 435 E. Bijou Street. I promise to meet you at my gates. Come on Broom Hilda,make my day!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
8th Aug 2012 (#)

Jerry. I would not need to shoot you if you stormed the White House gates! As I said, you would be shot. There was Mathitu thinking you were not as bad as he thought you were and you are letting him down.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
8th Aug 2012 (#)

If you want to face me come over. You are scum, bigoted scum. And as for the White House, I have been there as a welcomed guest. So stuff your idle treats up your arse.

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author avatar Mathitu
8th Aug 2012 (#)

ivy am a girl not a he. Jerry please calm down and this war between you two, now am sure no one can stop it.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
8th Aug 2012 (#)

I am fully cognizant of what Ivy the witch is, but if she wants to talk like a man than I'll treat her like one. Stop the war between us? She doesn't want it stopped and I strongly suggest that you don't get in it. She is now on my follow list and I will be scrutinizing every single word she writes and any time I find something referring to me I will be all over her like flies on honey.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

Mathitu: We must try to excuse Jerry.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
10th Aug 2012 (#)

Read the reply to your personal message to me ass hole!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

I wrote to Jerry suggesting that he clean up his language. I also suggested that he read my page, "The War is Over, the Peace May be Frightening". Originally, "Enjoy the War, the Peace May be Frightening" This is about a man who would never insult and abuse a woman. A man of courage and respect for women.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

This is Jerry's response to me:

Message from User "Jerry Walch" follows:

GO TO HELL BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

I have decided to delete your offensive comment, Jerry. You need psychiatric help.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

Get help, Jerry. Stay off my page.

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

Get help, Jerry.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
10th Aug 2012 (#)

Keep deleting Bitch and I start posting on your pages when you're sleeping all alone so everyone will have a chance to read all about your screwed up life before you have a chance to delete my comments

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author avatar Ivyevelyn, R.S.A.
10th Aug 2012 (#)

I realize that you are a sick person, Jerry. I have reported you to Administration. You are now a threat to me.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
10th Aug 2012 (#)

GOOD!

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author avatar Reaper
19th Aug 2012 (#)

I see our scathing tongues finally caught up with us.We reap what we sow.

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author avatar Jerry Walch
19th Aug 2012 (#)

Who was that comment directed at Reaper, me or the bitch?

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