New Reality at Wikinut – Business Not As Usual

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Wikinut has announced it will not be paying for content posted meaning all users will stop earning revenue from the site. This news comes out of the blue as payments made were more of an encouragement than rewarding. Hopefully, matters will turn around soon so that we continue to have a lovely platform to work on and to find meaning through our interaction with others.

A Needed Platform

As we pick up the pieces after a sort of hit between the eyes, many are trying to fit into the new reality or out looking for newer pastures. Online writing sites are under pressure but they are in elite company as even well- established newspapers are fighting for survival, stay relevant by reinventing themselves. There are many like me who like to have their voices heard, to get feedback, also to read fellow contributors and encourage them. These sites have broken down barriers as we can interact with those across the world. Friendships and even soulmates are created that survive the test of time.

Spring in Our Steps

One cannot expect charity from others to feed our passion but it would help society if we have a platform to air our views. Democracy and freedom get deeper meaning when we are continuously engaged and exchange our views to make some impact. Online writing sites are a great way to get our views across on a regular basis. Sites like Wikinut have given us a spring in our steps when we post our views to make us feel that we matter.

Issues At Hand

But hard business realities stare at us in the end. Wiknut is not known as a site that really paid to reward the contributors but the overall impact mattered. We have great camaraderie among the contributors encouraging each other but when the reward becomes zilch it would be tough to find motivation.

The site administrators have been forthright and practical. I for one do not mind to forgo the payments but hopefully things will turn around like good old times. I valued more the interaction – the comments – and I hope that will continue maybe in a subdued manner.

I think the payments were not a big issue like others highlighted in the letter as they might have amounted to not more than few hundred pounds a month. I was getting paid initially once a year and I had targeted to get monthly pay-outs but now it is water under the bridge.

Looking Ahead

It is not easy to find sites like Wikinut for those like me. So as long as Wikinut stays afloat I like to put my shoulders behind its wheel. And, hopefully, it will gain in strength to reward writers. I recall Associated Content was sold to Yahoo for a purported sum of $100 million and that amounted to $50 per post for 2 million of content! Those heady days may be well past, but online niche writing sites should find a place still. However it takes two to tango and I hope there will be a new rewarding dawn soon after taking stock of the changing realities at play.


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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Thank you Johnnydod for the moderation and star merit.

It is a less crowded place here at Wikinut though I like more the hustle and bustle of the past. I feel it is only taking a deep breath to assimilate the thoughts, understand the ground realities, and let go those that are dated. Time to reinvent ourselves to stay in the game.

Wikinut is taking only a deserved pause to re-energize like we might do once our time here has run its course! siva

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author avatar Stella Mitchell
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Good morning dear Siva .
Alas , it came as a surprise to hear of the changes with W for all of us , and by the sudden disappearance from our screen of many good friends in my inbox messages , it would seem the changes have caused a mass exodus .
As for me , I intend to be around as long as the site continues to exist , because money has never been my motivation , and so I was not disappointed when , after nearly three years I accumilated only £5 for all my posts .
I , like yourself , enjoy the comments from friends on line , such as yourself and others , and that would be missed were it to discontinue .
In the meantime , dear friend ...I pray you will have a very Happy Christmas time with loved ones and friends
Many blessings always
Stella ><

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
20th Dec 2015 (#)

Stella, looking at the writers that have stayed it is possible to see that most value the community we have here. I for one will not miss those who publish sub-par articles by the dozen, lacking both facts and research. Glad to see you are still here.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Agreed Peter, it is better to have fewer quality articles than too many without saying much, but it is always a challenge for the sites to strike a balance - siva

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author avatar Delicia Powers
18th Dec 2015 (#)

as always your hallmark -a very outstanding article... Siva ...Merry Christmas...:0)

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Thank you Delicia - your presence and words are soothing during these trying times when we have to reinvent ourselves, in a way like a family in disarray, but then, as I always do, learn the lessons and move on with a positive take; sorry stay put as there is always a better tomorrow!

Merry Christmas and Happy and Prosperous New Year to you and family too - siva

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author avatar Delicia Powers
2nd Jan 2016 (#)

It is truly Siva-a very busy time for everyone ..though rusty, I hope to make writing one of my new year priorities -sharing some of my recipes with photos, reviewing a few favorite childern's books- (I just adore children's literature!)..and of coarse- as always- my very first love- writing poetry! Most of all, I hope to read many more of all my old friends articles!...Happy and Healthy New Year Siva...:0)

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2016 (#)

Thank you Delicia, Happy New Year to you too, may it bring joy and prosperity to you and family. I seem to have missed this comment earlier.

I am taking time off in terms of posting my thoughts but continue to visit and support those who soldier on.

I look forward to your works here that garner much support. You spread cheer whenever you make your presence here either through poetry or wholesome comments.

Most are waiting for some good news that things will be back to normal so that they find their bearings too and swing back into action - siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks dear Stella. I feel like the day after - as if I have woken up in a new domain, but something tells me not only to stay on but try harder, press on!

I do appreciate others' actions as some need the motivation through payments but I feel it was too little anyway to make an impact. However, earning is a needed incentive in a writing site and hope it will kick in again. I have given my feedback to the site.

Without Wikinut I will not even know good souls like you existed and that is reason enough for me to hang on for dear life here!

I think I might have got five payments in all and was working to increase the frequency but in the end - Man proposes, God disposes!

I believe all news are just news and it is up to us to take them positively or otherwise. Soon they will be water under the bridge. But experiences count and they leave a mark on our psyche.

As long as we are up and about, why should we worry! Then time to look out for those in need and there are too many of them around lacking love most of all, despite them hanging on to devises, even worse, weapons of mass destruction!

I too wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year with good tidings all through - siva

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author avatar brendamarie
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Siva, it was a huge surprise. Wikinut being the only place that I write for I don't know, what I am going to do. Wishing you a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Agreed Brendamarie, I too liked Wikinut to such an extent I did not write anywhere else. This despite reading that others paid more. I wanted durability more than fly-by-night purveyors.

I do hope some reward system is in the works in the not too distant future once the loopholes are fixed to keep at bay those taking advantage of them.

Wish you too Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year - siva

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author avatar PSRemeshChandra
24th May 2017 (#)

Some writing-publishing sites have rewarding systems other than money payment systems. Some, like Wiki Answers, sent annual gifts to their supervisors. Even without sending gifts and giving out remunerations, Wikinut needs to survive, for it is a good platform for writers for publishing their articles and forming worthy friendships. The comments a writer gets for his articles in Wikinut are unique in that they are from better writers than him or her. Perhaps in no other publishing platform will a writer get this advantage- helped, advised, encouraged and criticized by better writers. Moreover, quite a number of students use this site as they are free to use the articles here. I will think about quitting only when students are denied free access which I think will never happen. It is better for the writers’ community to keep Wikinut alive.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
24th May 2017 (#)

I agree but most have left or dormant, so the site just lives on without the zest of the old when payments, though measly, was made.

I visit the site often but do not post articles but make very few comments - siva

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author avatar Shamarie
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Good morning, Siva, and thanks for the wonderful post! I really do pray that Wikinut bounces back! Happy Holidays to you and your family!!!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks Shamarie, the intentions are honorable and upfront. When we identify the issues half the battle is won.

Wish you too Happy Holidays - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Shamarie, I would like to see Wikinut bounce back and pay again, but I think the tide has turned in this area. To my mind the only successful model is building a writers co-operative where we share the profits and costs.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Yes Peter, that would be a great idea where we pool our resources to create a great site or, maybe, make an offer to run this site itself as we have a ready made platform with members numbering thousands! siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Its done in some industry...its called crowd-sourcing...what male us unique is we will not be profit driven but cause driven for the love of writing. The profit can come as secondary to reward the crowd who will this up again.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

The passionate among the writers would prefer to have a platform that lasts - not a flash in the pan, or like few who flatter only to deceive in the end.

Leadership is the issue as passion for writing limits many to take up a wider role.

Agreed Saigon, passion for writing can be the backbone but most would want some revenue for their efforts too - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Siva, I agree that writing sites such as Wikinut have broken down many barriers. When I started writing it was via a blog and the comments were vary rare indeed. I know that there are many people who have successful blogs, have hundreds of comments on them and earn a reasonable living from them, but they are rare. For most mere mortals sites like Wikinut provide both an outlet and a way to build community, which is why I think I shall be continuing here.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks Peter, I think like you on this issue.

Google AdSense/AdWords do not make sense for people like me.I feel there are wheels within wheels to get a return.

I wanted a platform than trying to build one through a blog; that for me is more of marketing driven than on content. Wikinut provided a platform that gave me 2000 page views a piece/week. That is still continuing for the last few days - in fact, it has increased!

What I cherish most is the community and I hope the comments section will continue for us to engage/encourage each other.as we hunker down to see out the tough times!

In fact, this is almost a Déjà vu experience for me though at YCN I was an exception not to be eligible for payment due to residency issues. Now we are all in the same boat! siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
20th Dec 2015 (#)

I had Adsense on my blog, got paid my first $100 by Google then got to about $85 and got banned by Google because someone spammed my website and Google would accept no communications and acted as judge, jury and executioner.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

I was active for a while at Bukisa but after they changed to Adsense, I lost my moorings, and I felt they too, as the earnings became very uncertain - siva

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author avatar Sherri Granato
18th Dec 2015 (#)

Very positive outlook. I am happy that they are continuing to allow us to post. I love having a platform for my articles. Thankfully there are many sites that do pay content writers. For now, I will continue with Wikinut.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Agreed Sherri, I too am grateful that I still have this site to post my articles.

I am wary of venturing into newer pastures and try to build from scratch - siva

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author avatar spirited
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Nicely expressed as always siva.

I joined the site on 10 October 2013. I wrote 576 articles up to 09 December 2015.

I was paid the princely sum (actually some is still owing) of only 13.918 pounds.

Not a lot, but then I was not so good at promoting my work. I liked to write more than to promote.

I have joined a blogging/discussion site called mylot.com since.

You can make more money here, but you must also interact and comment and the articles are not so welcome, as the discussion.

You are even paid for your comments though.

I will write again for wikinut, I am just feeling a bit let down right now.

Merry Xmas to you siva, and to all on wikinut!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks for the input and also about mylot.com.

I have heard about this site but was wary to split my time with another. Now I think I can do so due to the changed circumstances at Wikinut.

I can still write here and also join the discussions at mylot,

We have now to collect our thoughts and also reinvent ourselves according to our own realities. Good that we can continue our contact here as we grapple with the new dawn.

Wishing you Merry Xmas and Happy New Year too Spirited - siva

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author avatar spirited
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Mylot seems to be all right, but it seems like that it can take up a lot of time too.

It seems to be great though when you don't feel like writing a whole article, but just want to start a discussion or add your two cents worth to someone else's.

I have just written an article here now, I wonder who will moderate it.

Are all of the moderators staying around, do you know siva?

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks again Spirited.

I just want to look around but will stick with Wikinut as the prime site.

I wanted to have a good collection of articles like I had in YCN and, hopefully, Wikinut will not shut down like YCN did with lots of work going down the drain.

Peter has said he will be around and this post was moderated by Johnnydod.

The quantity has come down an awful lot as it is clear that motivation to write is lacking now - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Post mortem to Bubblews.... They quit while still on decent rank with real issue of "advertising climate is not profitable anymore" . They in oart betrayed everyone especially the hordes of members who enjoy the platform at an elementary requirment to post their thoughts. Fast forward dec 10, wikinut was an honorable site to announce its plans while it ca not be in parallel to the infamy of bubblews the two site thread the same business model. Remember bubblews since July last year have the industry standard of adsense etc ads rates that Wikinut and others have embrace. Bubblews actually still made money but they were on a free fall even at a great number of visits and views daily where wikinut canonly dream of. Our site wikinut had been dear to most of us because the reward as you've mentioned is more of an encouragement than an earnings. The incentive is more truly felt in the community activity of sincere comments and real article worthy of time to read the way we composed our own.
The free hosting platform can be an alternative than closing shop. Like you and me however we wish this site to rise back on its feet. Just hoping our friends will be still around.
Happy holidays to all!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Yes SaigonDeManila, something is better than nothing with a hope that things will be back to normal soon.

I was not with Bubblews as I am sort of "one trick pony" in terms of sticking with one site at a time!

I felt Bubblews wanted to have many contributors and posts and would have had a sale of the site at the back of their minds - as I recall Yahoo paid $100 million to Associated Content but had to close down within few years. Bubblews wanted to build up an enormous site but the base was too thin and fragile!

Wikinut was slow and steady and was ambling along for my comfort. We have a good community and many would become active again if they know there is light down the tunnel

Happy Holidays to you all - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
20th Dec 2015 (#)

Saigon, In my humble opinion Bubblews failed because it did nothing about quality. at its height 99% of all posts were badly written junk supported by unofficial "Like" clubs. I could not understand why a post barely 100 characters long with bad spelling/grammar had 5,000+ likes - of course the writers got into trouble when trying to collect their payments (because that is when articles were checked).

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

I always felt Bubblews wanted to create maximum clout, pizzazz, to make a pitch to sell the site but the tide turned against online writing sites.

Also, the enormous edifice was built on a thin.flimsy, foundation, majority with feet of clay!

One wealthy businessman was keen to know how online sites worked and asked me details as he had heard that there was money to be made and quick! He obviously wanted to build a site only to look to sell to make a fast buck; I was not keen to be part of such a business idea.

As you had suggested Peter, maybe, it is time for the passionate to administer a site as a cooperative venture and then it would be underpinned by a desire to sustain it and also share the earnings. Then quality can also be maintained - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
21st Dec 2015 (#)

My article under satire calls that site as Blah Blah Republic hehehe!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Sort of a gallows humor, Saigon! siva

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
10th Sep 2016 (#)

i agree Saigon..although i do not often write here..most of my time on Google Plus where i do not earn money but have made many friends in Europe and even met them when i went to Italy and Athens earlier this year...and Enorasis Project is creating music for my poetry which i now record on garage band...and they are featured on soundcloud and youtube...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Sep 2016 (#)

That is really going places dear Carolina.

Talent always shines irrespective of artificial borders and, of course, with the effort that you obviously put in.

Wish you success all the way - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
1st May 2018 (#)

@cnwriter nice to hear that!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
1st May 2018 (#)

Hi SiagonDeManila, nice to read yours. How are you doing? siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Aww what happen on the trifecta whammy post...i only send this once...Siva, please do delete the excess Comment.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

No issues SaigonDeManila - done! siva

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author avatar King Butler
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Thank you Siva for your comments and advice with information about my posts on Wikinut. You were right on target as my 20 posts today on December 18, 2015 total 52 views with twos, threes, and a four views on each of my 20 posts which is the first time that it happened. I appreciate all of your comments and advice to me on my posts. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. God bless you.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

It is my pleasure King Butler.

My posts garner 2000 page views and I post once a week normally.

As I am active in commenting on others' posts, I get a lot of comments in return too.

Wishing you too Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Thats exactly tye best practice, though few here are on marathon of about 2-3post a day...i guess its still the quality of cmmunity activites that sets good karma and genune engagements. For my part on my regular active days (with 1post a week too) can generate me 200 views daily. Abut 1400 weekly. I was nactve frm June to November thus imy average was down for about 50views daily. Stll shows how amazng stemcan this be instead of repyng to my blogpost as Glbert mentioned.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2015 (#)

Yes SaigonDeManila, we should pace ourselves as writing sites are not a short sprint but more than a marathon run - we should stay the course!

I had similar camaraderie at YCN too and was eager to comment on others' posts and they proved more than generous in return.

In fact, we were happy to see each other again at Wikinut and the relationship continued.

Active marketing was not my forte but I have no regrets at all and that is applicable to life in general too - siva

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author avatar kaylar
20th Dec 2015 (#)

The Owners were never interested. Absentee Landlords; the same mentality that would buy a plantation in Jamaica, appoint overseers, then complain they weren't making money.

If the Owners had cared, if they had policed the site a little better to prevent crap writers from dominating, but they didn't.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
20th Dec 2015 (#)

It is more of what comes first Kaylar. It was hands-off management style and Wikinut was on sort of autopilot.

If the site was making money, showed potential, they would have been more hands-on but, maybe, they felt it was not worth their time.

I remember the words of a former director telling us, the senior management, - "if you don't give me returns I will lose interest"! siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Kaylar, The problem of "crap" posts of a problem on most writing sites and is not in and of itself the cause of Wikinut's downfall. I agree with the comment about the owners being absentee landlords, the problem was the site needed continuing development and it was not making enough money for that to happen. This has been more a writer's community for a long time.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

I think the overall online writing environment declined rapidly due to few out to cheat the system.

I recall how President Kennedy's father got out of the stock market just before it crashed in the Wall Street Crash of 1929. It is said that he knew it was time to get out of the market when he received stock tips from a shoe-shine boy!

Likewise some sites were rewarding few for well - "you scratch my back, I will do likewise". So the advertisers lost confidence in the whole set-up. It became more of clicking frenzy! The ground under the feet was giving away even for well established platforms - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
21st Dec 2015 (#)

What do you think of crowd funding this site under guidance from the wisdom of the crowd?

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Saigon, this is too nice a platform to let go, but I personally feel most will find it tough to motivate themselves to be active here without revenue sharing.

Maybe, the site founders can float this idea or get investors through crowd funding too - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Saigon, Crowd funding is not such a bad idea, but I do question whether the writers here would be prepared to put up the majority of the development cost, because it we don't then the general public will not.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Peter, I feel the credibility issue is crucial - that the site really means business.

Then some will have the confidence to pitch in for the long haul, but the funding part will still be an issue - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
21st Dec 2015 (#)

If I won the lottery jackpot on Saturday I would buy the site and make efforts to turn it around, but even so there would be a budget and gaining readers would be my highest priority.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

Peter, I too have a to-do-list in my mind if I win a lottery and I will also join you in this venture as there are many who want a good site to air their views and park their posts for posterity. Of course, earn to reward for their time too without being greedy!

I also want to strike lottery to test how good I am, or will I end up deceiving and disappointing myself in the end ? siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

Siva,Gilbert...we don't to create one but just "push" forward this site since it has decent numbers and membership already. Its more on maintenance and marketing now than developing. It's a good product already -that need some focus management -thats why were sticking around right?

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

Well said Saigon, this site is really lovely and cosy too and that is why I stayed almost overstaying the welcome lulled into complacency!

Sadly, this site is also sort of tarnished with the same brush though it has tried to remain pristine with moderators who did a "thankless" job as my teacher used to admonish us!

We need backing that is not underpinned by pure business motives - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

Saigon, Siva, I have considered the challenge of creating a writing site. 1) I would prefer the editor be similar to Wordpress in style with a toolbar that allows a wide range of formats. 2) It must be moderated (or have editors) so that we don't allow rubbish to be published. 3) unlike Wikinut I wouldn't allow reproduced material.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

Best of luck Peter, I am with you to give my best. I do not know much about the workings.

Agreed, it should be moderated. I have never posted reproduced material as I love to write what is relevant that moment - siva

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author avatar Ptrikha
21st Dec 2015 (#)

The pay was low, but still an incentive.

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author avatar LOVERME
27th Dec 2015 (#)

write for scent
..not cent

in over four years..
wiki has not paid me a cent ..
they owe so many pounds so

one good thing

with money removed

more guys now read
me

..and still of course you

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
3rd Jan 2016 (#)

No cents, but that does not prevent me from inhaling the smell of a good scent.

To post an article we need some cents/pennies to add up to a pound eventually.

Hopefully, all the nut points will become pennies eventually and you have quite a lot of them, Loverme! siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Dec 2015 (#)

Yes Ptrikha that is the crux of the matter for many to find the motivation.

For them to stay one needs some light at the end of the tunnel - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

My Lord
only you read and comment on my poetry
and the A kind pees all over ...
in the four or five years i have been here...
i haven't got a penny or cent from wiki ..
but i never composed for money
what really surprises me ???
how still 1000 plus minus read me daily if i post at least one poetry
So I am grateful Lord as even Johnny my mentor has forgotten me ..
so many who read you
and me few too we
should be grateful ...
at least we are still being read. despite wikis new policy

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
23rd Dec 2015 (#)

Yes Loverme, I will still look out for my friends to extend my support.

I have not missed out on any of your poems and commented too, but you had to do the clean up act, and fast, for another! But that is life!

I am sure the message has got across and the site administrators should come up with new ideas to keep this site on a firm footing.

Let us wish well those who left for now, but I feel no one has really left forever - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
27th Dec 2015 (#)

one good thing

with money removed

more guys now read
me

..and still of course you

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
3rd Jan 2016 (#)

I will continue to lend my support Loverme - keep them coming - siva

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author avatar King Butler
22nd Dec 2015 (#)

Write it and leave it on Wikinut because resurrection day is any day now for those writers who writes from the heart and not for money in the long run. Be patient and they will come to read your writings one by one or two by two like the animals came to Noah's Ark.

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author avatar LOVERME
27th Dec 2015 (#)

let me join u in ur resurrection

write for scent
..not cent

in over four years..
wiki has not paid me a cent ..
they owe so many pounds so

one good thing

with money removed

more guys now read
me

..and still of course you

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
3rd Jan 2016 (#)

Wikinut is taking a deep breath and back it will come with you keeping it going in trying times - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
27th Feb 2017 (#)

Keep dreaming
as in dreams we live
all our life

here or there matters least
as long as we continue
to DREAM

WHEN WE are there
we want to be here
and
vice versa
depends on our brains tuning

but dream is a must to progress
else we may stagnate...
hope u do hear1



Night Mare WHAT!

In the middle of the night
I woke up
voices calling out to me
why are you sleeping
the world is awake
speak to me

and
I woke up so to say
come now O Lord
will you speak...
he did!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Feb 2017 (#)

Dreams are needed for us to march ahead - in fact, they are a guide and the art of the possible.

The poor dreams of becoming rich while the rich have nightmares of becoming poor! siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
23rd Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks King Butler, we need to motivate each other to stay in the game. This is a nice platform to linger on.

Though my 400 posts in YCN have disappeared, I feel their presence at times within me, in a way like I do of those I knew but since departed - siva

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author avatar Kingwell
24th Dec 2015 (#)

Hi Siva, I too have received little money from writing here but I am waiting to see how many of my friends will continue to write for this site. I will at least wait until the festive season is over. Happy Holidays! Blessings.

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author avatar LOVERME
27th Dec 2015 (#)

write for scent
..not cent

in over four years..
wiki has not paid me a cent ..
they owe so many pounds so

one good thing

with money removed

more guys now read
me

..and still of course you

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
3rd Jan 2016 (#)

If more guys read you with money removed, that shows the real worth of your poems. Poets are usually poor in material terms but rich in terms of inspiration and the legacy they leave behind - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
17th Feb 2016 (#)

Mi Lord and I

My dog eats more
in a moment

Than Wikis will ever give me
in my life’s Poetry event

but you have stopped writing
that's sad...

But Mi Lord
I am glad
you still come to sustain my aim
you are of all Lords
handsome and not lame

God may and will bless you
when on Wikis are left only
with us two...

I will compose poetry
and
you comment on me

then the world will see
Wikis lives still
Because of you and me
Amen

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
24th Dec 2015 (#)

Good to see you Kingwell. I want to continue but at a slower pace as there is no monetary reward and also some friends have either left or become inactive.

I have joined myLot which seems more to my liking than others. You can try that as the reward is reasonable

Thanks and Happy Holidays to you too - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
24th Dec 2015 (#)


24th Dec 2015 (#)

Siva, I am looking for another site, I have been a member of MyLot for a long time but have recently become active there again, I wouldn't count it as a writing site though, it is more a way of earning through you opinions.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
24th Dec 2015 (#)

Thanks Peter, in fact I joined MyLot couple of days ago - see my above reply to Kingwell.

I read your post there and am feeling my way around. I posted one discussion post too. I have met Spirited too there - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
27th Dec 2015 (#)

write for scent
..not cent

in over four years..
wiki has not paid me a cent ..
they owe so many pounds so

one good thing

with money removed

more guys now read
me

..and still of course you

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
3rd Jan 2016 (#)

I will keep visiting, imbibe the spirit of the site, leave my mark through comments and enhance your nut points - siva

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author avatar spirited
3rd Jan 2016 (#)

" I want to continue but at a slower pace as there is no monetary reward and also some friends have either left or become inactive."

This is my approach too, I think.

I just have not got the time to spend time on more than two sites really.

Mylot does seem to take time, and it only pays if you are active all the time, unlike wikinut were you could collect multiple views even when inactive.

Mylot only is for discussions, it seems, not for posting longer articles, so from time to time, I will still write here on wikinut, when I have the time.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
4th Jan 2016 (#)

Frankly Spirited, I have lost some motivation to write here, more due to the lack of interaction from comments. I cannot be sort of talking to myself!

Of course, the payment was also an incentive especially as it was mentioned - I think - "lifetime rewards". So, I thought even when I don't post new articles I will get something from my earlier posts.

I feel the way forward is to revert to what the site had promised and, as I had mentioned earlier, the payments would have been only few hundred pounds a month in total.

So it boils down to attracting the right members and the ads should follow. Whatever said and done, the moderators performed a "thankless job"! Regarding the "star" rating, I felt all my articles were of the same quality and I adhered to the guidelines to be eligible for them. I did not want to waste my time, or the readers' for that matter. I was aware of this when I was active at YCN with similar support I used to garner.

I also feel MyLot and Wikinut could be the right mix for us. And like MyLot rising from the 'ashes", I hope Wikinut will do so too. The platform does not deserve to die - siva

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author avatar spirited
4th Jan 2016 (#)

Great sentiments siva.

I didn't like the reneging on promises of perpetual payments too.

I was trying to build a database of articles which would result in me receiving some residual income then without even me needing to be doing anything much more on the site.

I had over 2,000 articles on Helium, and they had made the same lofty promise too. Earnings for life.

I guess those sort of promises always carry hidden daggers within them that will all land into the member's backs at some stage.

I have been stabbed a few times now, Associated content was another one who initially promised the world, then cut out/off most of the world from their payments.

Yes, mylot has been around for many years it seems, and this is a new resurrection of it, it seems too. Let's hope it lasts.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
4th Jan 2016 (#)

Thanks Spirited, I hope our interaction will throw some light to the owners of the site. They should get some funding to get the site going than allow it to drift further than they did earlier!

In fact, I get more page views now than earlier and that means my efforts have some value that can be monetized like for others who do likewise.

I liked the atmosphere at Associated Content, but I did not make further effort to get paid when they stopped payments for non-US citizens. Overtime, it acted as a dampener for my efforts, but Yahoo drove the final nail as we were made to feel, sort of, overstaying the welcome by making our lives difficult.

I like MyLot and hope to make an impression there, but they too will have to rein in some "irrational exuberance" from some who have a short-term view - siva

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author avatar spirited
4th Jan 2016 (#)

I believe google is a pretty tough boss to work for though, and doesn't like these article farm sites very much at all though.

Mylot has moved to more being like facebook, and facebook is still making millions, so that's a good move.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
4th Jan 2016 (#)

I think content farms should be under the scanner as they hardly have any value but quality can be assured within broad guidelines of the sites.

Each site has to be nimble as many players march in when there is a market to be exploited - siva

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author avatar spirited
4th Jan 2016 (#)

I like the idea of writing an article more than of a discussion, because you sort have more to show at the end of it as a finished product.

Many people just write as much as they can as fast as they can to make as much money as they can....while they can.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
4th Jan 2016 (#)

Maybe, it is fifty-fifty for me as discussion enables us to listen too and understand others.

That is why I am taking a break here now as it could end up as - His Master's Voice! Like the boss said "you are all entitled to "my" view"!

Regarding getting carried away with quantity, we had to write long answers in exams in high school, but those who wrote papers after papers fared not better than those who just answered to the point and that is being generous to them! siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
5th Jan 2016 (#)

Does takng a break means hibernatng?

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
6th Jan 2016 (#)

Well Saigon, there is drastic change in Wikinut and we cannot blame anyone in making their own decisions.

Let things settle down and, hopefully, there will be enough incentives for people to get back here. Mostly, we are left to react to the the reality thrust on us - siva

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author avatar Subra
7th Jan 2016 (#)

Dear Siva, sad that Wikinut has short-changed many of you who were so dedicated in embracing this writing site. As you've said correctly, the money paid is nothing compared to the flow and exchange of information, ideas and thoughts from individuals of various cultures and creeds. This was an excellent platform for goodwill and comraderie between people and in a way helping to promote coexistence and understanding. Pity the Wikinut administration did not see the benefits of Wikinut contributions from writers from all over the world. Really a sad day for Wikinut and motivated writers like you!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2016 (#)

Thanks dear Subra for your understanding and words of consolation. You have said it all.

This is indeed a great site and I was happy to find solace here without looking for other opportunities. Though the payments were little, it still was an incentive but the greater reward was the interaction and mutual encouragement as you rightly pointed out.

Though I still want to contribute it has become tougher to motivate myself as there is no fulfillment in going through the motion. I need the support of many kind souls like you to put my best effort - now I feel like the wind in my sails have been knocked out, but still will try to soldier on to support those who were like family.

I have moved on to MyLot which is more of interactions on discussions topics. You will like it there too - siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
7th Jan 2016 (#)

Siva, Wow what an amazing discussion you sparked off. I have spent a little time just looking through all the comments and suggestions.and have to say they are all wonderful and on the whole shows the Wikinut spirit, the community of writers dedicating themselves to their craft.

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
26th Jan 2016 (#)

yes yes indeed Peter...we always were and are a close knit and caring community...some bad apples crop up once in a while but they will decay as badness does...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
27th Jan 2016 (#)

Yes dear Carolina, our community is a close knit family eager to get back again to past glory.The core of the oneness remained right through.

Some are taking a hiatus but eager to return with a bang! siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2016 (#)

Thanks Peter, the comments also would have reflected the high and low pulsating the moments of despair and also hope.

Everyone wants the site to be up and about like the good old days; yet, some uncertainty looms on the horizon - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
23rd Jan 2016 (#)

Going back to our nutty site, if the heart of the matter is being profitable yet seeng the site already embarkng a good ads revivals...why dont we have a monatorium for few months for the site to recoup enough time to build some muscle before giving back to the source -the writers- whats due for them? The structural and behavioral adaptation of everything from animals to higher specie can not be denied. If the bears need to hibernate and wait for the end of winter, why we homo-nutty-sapiens can't do it for the very survval of our trbe and artistic conclave?

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
23rd Jan 2016 (#)

Saigon, thanks for your thoughts. We need some light at the end of a dark tunnel.

Yes, I think many members are hibernating for now and will shake of their lethargy if they get some positive news. Some, of course, have left for other pastures.

For me, it is the comments that drove me to put my best foot forward more than the money that was little anyway. I need an active site where people feel involved with hope of a better future.

I spend time at MyLot, a discussion site, where few from here have been active - siva

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author avatar Tranquilpen
24th Jan 2016 (#)

Reading through these comments, I come away with one conclusion, the utter dismay, of a tightly joined community, now falling silent. Lest I add insult to injury, heaven forbid, I currie silence at this juncture, much like the actions from "A smuggler's Song" by Rudyard Kipling where he writes:"If you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet, don't go drawing back the blind, or looking in the street, "Them that asks no questions isn't told a lie. I too will pay mylot a visit. God bless you all. Andre'

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
24th Jan 2016 (#)

Thanks Andre for chipping in.

Yes, many are silenced. My attempt is only to keep the issue alive that this site should not pass on into the wilderness of time.

Many had put heart and soul but understand that reality took its toll though still are hoping for a return to the good old days.

MyLot is a discussion site and I am still adapting to fit in - siva

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author avatar vellur
24th Jan 2016 (#)

I enjoy the friendship that we have here among the writers and value their comments. I do hope things look up on the bright side soon.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
24th Jan 2016 (#)

Yes, I do hope Vellur we get back to the days when we shared great time - now looks like a family in disarray - siva

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
26th Jan 2016 (#)

hello my very dear Siva...am back although not as prolific as i was on this site...i too will stay for it has been the source of many good friends and also the core of my writings remain here...much light to you, carolina....

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
27th Jan 2016 (#)

Thanks dear Carolina, I will be be here for as long as I can, more to encourage others.

Hopefully, others too will find it worth their while to stay on - siva

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author avatar onenow
10th Feb 2016 (#)

Thank you, so much, for this post. I was not aware that Wikinut had stopped paying, as I was too new to receive any payment anyway. This explains why the writings have dropped so much. I will continue to post when I feel I have something to say, but I am disappointed that the long range goal of generating some income here is gone.

I am very happy to meet beautiful people, like you, here and think this alone makes my time here worthwhile.

Thanks again,

Elliott

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Feb 2016 (#)

Hi Elliott

I have read your posts and enjoyed them. I was active here for three years before the payments stopped. I too was enjoying my time and trying for monthly payouts. But, out of the blue, everything went up in smoke!

I would have continued at a slower pace but many either left or became inactive - so that was double whammy for people like me.

Thanks for your kind words, I too miss the many who welcomed me with enthusiasm like I did too. I am now with MyLot which is an active site. I have met some familiar people there, the group who have the urge to be on online platforms though they have to be nimble to jump from one to another! siva

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author avatar Cnwriter..carolina
10th Sep 2016 (#)

i joined myLot and followed you..who else from here is on that site so i can follow..love to you dear Siva...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Sep 2016 (#)

Thanks dear Carolina.

myLot is a discussion site, good to spend some time and they pay too reasonably.

Spirited (Steve Marshall), Peter and Erly are there and, maybe, some others too - siva

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author avatar Cnwriter..carolina
10th Sep 2016 (#)

i agree...

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author avatar spirited
10th Feb 2016 (#)

Payments stopped in December 10, 2015.

If you go to your account page, you will see a message about it under Admin Notice:

It's interesting to read it:

Admin Notice


All users were emailed on 09/Dec/2015 regarding some important changes to Wikinut.com. Please read this statement.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Feb 2016 (#)

Thanks Spirited, for this heads-up. I too missed it initially as it had gone to my earlier but now inactive email - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
17th Feb 2016 (#)

Mi Lord and I

My dog eats more
in a moment

Than Wikis will ever give me
in my life’s Poetry event

but you have stopped writing
that's sad...

But Mi Lord
I am glad
you still come to sustain my aim
you are of all Lords
handsome and not lame

God may and will bless you
when on Wikis are left only
with us two...

I will compose poetry
and
you comment on me

then the world will see
Wikis lives still
Because of you and me
Amen

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
17th Feb 2016 (#)

I will do - it looks a musical chair when only one will be left as time takes its toll in the end! siva

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author avatar LOVERME
10th Mar 2016 (#)

a sub bat tickle

we all are simply
specks of emotions
falling down in tons
like the Niagara Falls
or
merging with the ocean
in Sydney
where friends I have many

dispensable are we all
short big or small

AND
most importantly
the root cause of unhappiness
is
seeing another man
with closed eyes

on top of the hill
with his superlatives
romping around him
may be
he has nothing
underneath..

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
13th Mar 2016 (#)

Yes, we matter only to ourselves, it looks like. We are emotional fools and others are anxious to shed and carry on.

We have had a great ride here with you accumulating nuts faster than you can eat, let alone count! Siva

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
12th Mar 2016 (#)

hello dear Siva...i miss you but am so busy on google plus..however i want to say how much i love and admire you...also please send healing light to VPaulose...he has not been well...blessings...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
13th Mar 2016 (#)

Thank you dear Carolina for your kind remembrance. I do miss our dear ones here; with many not active anymore. I have lost the zest to post here. I recall the great times I spent when the site was so lively.

I am sorry to hear V Paulose is not well. I did give some comments to his last post and was inquiring about his lack of activity. I pray for his health and well being.

Thanks again for your warm feelings and love which I sincerely reciprocate - Siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
11th Apr 2016 (#)

I myself got zapped of my mojo to write at the time I intend to revived my productivity when the announcement of changes was announced,. by the way is there Money to write in Google Plus?

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
11th Apr 2016 (#)

I don't think there is money to write in Google Plus. I am now in MyLot and can make little more than I made here. You can have a look - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
11th Apr 2016 (#)

I remember the time when I can write 20 articles a month Now i can't even break the 100 articles threshold which I am short of only 10 articles. I can;t even finished my drafted several articles already in the page box. sigh

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
11th Apr 2016 (#)

I can understand. We need some incentive by way of payment and there are sites that still pay thought not much - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
28th May 2016 (#)

they all r alike ...
write and swipe
...they never gave a cent to me as they extracted..
essence off me

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Jul 2016 (#)

Yes, something is better than nothing.

Many have voted with their feet obviously - siva

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author avatar Carol
28th Jul 2016 (#)

I hope you are still here Siva, not heard from you for a long time. It has never been about the money for me, just a platform for my work. I hope you are keeping well.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Jul 2016 (#)

Thanks Carol.

I do visit the site often. I am not posting now as many have left including three of the four moderators. Though money was not really an issue it still makes a difference as we get nothing for our efforts now.

I am now with myLot which is more of a discussion site. I get paid too with the site quite active - siva

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author avatar spirited
29th Jul 2016 (#)

You must be reading widely still here Siva, I just noticed myself that Johnnydod, has indeed gone now too.

Sad times, I wonder if a resurrection will ever take place here.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
29th Jul 2016 (#)

I do visit often and engage in some bantering with Loverme, more of gallows humour.

Yes, only Peter is left now and it is time the site advised us further about their plans - siva

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
29th Jul 2016 (#)

hello dear Siva...yes am still around but not often...hope you are well and much love and light to you...am busy writing on Google plus...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
29th Jul 2016 (#)

Thanks dear Carolina for your kind and loving words that I warmly reciprocate.

As you know I am not active here anymore but continue at a discussin site myLot.

I know you are active at Google plus - once a writer, always one! siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
31st Jul 2016 (#)

Staying with faith that our site still has relevance. Just the other day I invited (thinking to have a virtual class like my storyboarddotcom) my grade 11 class to do their blog/journal here. 3 already joined.
Meanwhile, I just saw another moderator "daisy' who has an interesting profile.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Jul 2016 (#)

Thanks Saigon for your take.

I am now at a discussion site - myLot - which is active and pays too.

I was building up my profile here for the long haul and since most have either left or become inactive I don't post now.

I have limited time anyway and I like to be on one site at a time - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
26th Aug 2016 (#)

see mi lord the whole world has read you its not cents but scents that matter most and to u too when they pay you will get the MOST
oh no...
I found a nut cracker lovely dentist ... gives also nuts... as my sine curve rises without a post ...
to over 800 level this week and that one can not come to my works to leak
..as i post here and there go see lovely ones ...
they tell me sine curve HURRAH HURRAY AND hurry ...
it won't droop
...I won't let it
...it will continue to swoop..... yesterday I surveyed ..
some of my works have been read by over 3000 viewers and mostly many by plus 1000 and McDonalds one
...5600 hurraaaaaaaaaaaa
huuuraaa O LoRD S LOVELY YOU RRRRRR

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Sep 2016 (#)

The stage is all yours now and you are having a ball of a time for sure.

The sine curve stays at the ceiling too with nowhere to go except up and up!

Keep posting as I am not the only one waiting impatiently to read and comment on them - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
9th Sep 2016 (#)

How will I eat and how
all my

43643 NUTS

LORDS
do u know
but all i know
though I am no Lord
wiki on you a Roses garland shall bestow
..as all by now on Wiki
you alone know
by your this lone and last note ...
God bless Shiva you and I will together eat
...all our nuts along with the moderators of wiki
...so be it
amen ameen etc gb

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Sep 2016 (#)

Yes, there are many nuts here for sure and some we cannot digest!

You have more than double mine but your dentist lovely should do strong implants for you to have a go at them.

Enjoy the time here as poets find inspiration when alone! siva

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author avatar LOVERME
20th Sep 2016 (#)

the very look of my dentist enamours ...
why have implants when with eyes alone
...love she showers
..and Lords you will create history for wiki
as this is the longest piece to earn wiki a victory...
stay blessed O Lord my sine curve rises again...
to a level of 900 plus many still among and u know want a pee..... AS STILL MONEY S MAKING WIKI..
on you and me

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
21st Sep 2016 (#)

Good your dentist lovely is a cure all but let her implant!

My last post keeps the sine curve up and about for me.

People want me to keep going; the mind is willing but the body not!

No dentist pretty too to help me to to chew the many nuts - siva

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
10th Sep 2016 (#)

wow took ages to get to here dear Siva...you have earned so much respect for your work and for your blessed beingness...i am not around much now but still treasure you in my heart...you can find me on https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CarolanNathan/posts

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Sep 2016 (#)

Thanks dear Carolina for your kind words.

I do miss the kind souls here who were always so supportive of my efforts here, and you are at the very top.

I could not will myself to be active here due to many leaving and others also being inactive. And also zilch payments that was the last straw for many.

Thanks for your link to google plus - I will check them out soon.

I am now in a discussion site myLot which pays alright - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
31st Oct 2016 (#)

You do great service to Wikis on 17th Dec 2016 you will prove to the www
.. that all writers poets and Lords need rewards
..and since this site has stopped paying like others.. they one day too
..may be running phew...
so retrieve your writings ..
this one will become a Book for Wikis ...
without your asking
..Yes smile like me
I alone still publish daily ...
once none read me
..now 1000 plus minus read me ...
yes daily
so god of lords
mi lord
the world will bless thee ...
for this article and comments so lovely ...
half plus or more maybe mine only

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2017 (#)

We don't need much but more than nothing!

For me the main issue was the site became lonelier with many leaving - so sort of shouting without any response and that was a real dampener.

And they had promised lifetime payments! siva

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author avatar LOVERME
25th Nov 2016 (#)

The Lord Shiva and Loverme

O Lord Shiva you are the provider you write other comment under your shadow I can't lament twill be a torment so I stand below the bridge all know the tall guy up there is the Lord of all writings here Wikis are bright too, they have moderators now very few so also writers like me and you ...your this article will become famous i will also get an umbrella kind of coverage all our words are earning cents for them we nurse our narrssissy and feel conten the world is reading us daily in my case at least a sine curves worth with the zero base at a 1000 level you add yours here shiva the world will give us a passing photo frame in name they will earn the new dollars let them be they are the managing ones not we, we are simply writers and poets you and I why Shy

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2017 (#)

I comment only on yours but most from the past have been silenced by zilch payment - could be a shocker tough to overcome - a hit between the eyes, sort of.

We have only few hours a day to spare and time is running out fast for me, so have to be selective to make it worthwhile of what is left - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
3rd Dec 2016 (#)

on 17 Dec 2016 you will have to celebrate this works first birthday longest article alive till today lets sing lords praise mi lord today till 17th day happy birthday
Saturday blues

The blues still exist
without blues
life can't persist

Happy blue to all of you
be it blue moon
or
Kiss from the blue

Happy must remain friends
all of you
stay blue!!!!

my sine curve droops over week ends from 1000s it droops to 750s

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2017 (#)

Yes, I have been grounded for a year now waiting for gas to restart the engine!

You are kept afloat by sine curve and that is something to admire - keep going! siva

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author avatar LOVERME
4th Jan 2017 (#)

A BOOK LENGTHS WORTHY WRITING COMMENTS FROM WIKIS WHY WE SHOULD WRITE WHOLE HEARTEDLY READ ME MY WRITINGS AND LOVERME
S POETRY
Please O Poet Don’t Die

If you do all that
lovemaking
whilst you two
are alive
see the comments would exceed
a beehive

you love her so much
never let her die
she will cry
ere you die

so live together
and see
who goes first
you or she
and
maybe if your love is so intense

you may both in a helicopter fly sky high
and drop dead holding hands
both will together enter
those unknown lands
as lovers alive

all will welcome

but don't die before me please

I'd love to hear someone crying
for me
THE ONLY LORD OF WIKI STILL SHIVA

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
7th Jan 2017 (#)

When comments from me stop, that means I am out of action; so keep going and I will hang on for dear life! siva

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author avatar LOVERME
20th Jan 2017 (#)

Lord friend and poet
.. u alone comment ..
though each day 7 or 5 or 800 now going below my knee
..read me
.
thanks to thee ..
my sine curve survives
...get some gas or should i send from MARS

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
27th Jan 2017 (#)

I will read and comment on yours to keep the sine curve soaring high.

You are keeping the sine curve of Wikinut high too with your efforts - siva

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author avatar spirited
11th Mar 2017 (#)

You are still getting comments here siva, and I assume there are plenty still reading or viewing your posts too.

With over 500,000 views to my articles now, I shudder at the amount that I might have earnt by now, from doing nothing more.

This was supposed to be lifetime earnings, as you said, and this was why most of us built up a portfolio, for a little bit of glitter on our gold!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
11th Mar 2017 (#)

Yes Spirited, it is a pity indeed not to get paid after being promised lifetime earnings.

I still get over 1000 page views a week without posting anything new.

No wonder many ceased their efforts here though I still have a look almost everyday but comments are almost nothing for anyone now - siva

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author avatar spirited
11th Mar 2017 (#)

I see Steve Kinsman is still doing well with his articles here though, so there are a few writers that we knew still, around, pushing the wikinut barrel ahead, though, it is an empty barrel now...LOL...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
12th Mar 2017 (#)

Yes, there are very few from the earlier cohort still making the effort.

They are like a rose in a desert blooming irrespective of any passersby! siva

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author avatar spirited
12th Mar 2017 (#)

Beautifully put, siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
12th Mar 2017 (#)

Thanks Spirited, it is tough to motivate myself and losing the many diehard supporters took the wind out of my sails!

And also the non-payment for our efforts. It might not have been much but the sudden change was a dampener - siva

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author avatar spirited
12th Mar 2017 (#)

Yes, and it is a bit of an effort to drop sails, and then raise them again, and float somewhere else, in a new lake of writers somewhere else.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
13th Mar 2017 (#)

Yes, picking up the pieces is not for the faint of heart!

I am always a one site person at a time - siva

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author avatar Memba Ben
30th Mar 2017 (#)

Hi Siva.

While it is a bummer that writing sites don't really pay for content any longer, I don't think the pay should be used as a motivator to get people to write.

If anything, I think I speak for many when I say the writing experience is a reward in itself.

Thanks for sharing this informative post!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Mar 2017 (#)

I agree to some extent that the real reward lies in sharing our thoughts. However, when the promised lifetime earnings were extinguished all of a sudden, many who had put their heart and soul exited immediately.

It is clear then that the responses/comments will just dry up and that was a real dampener for me - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
1st Apr 2017 (#)

It is clear then that the responses/comments (will)
nooooo HAVE
just dRIED up and that was a real dampener ?siva
my
in my 6 years contribution they couldn't
pay 50$ o what is a hundred dollars
justify it for me
but my sine curve thrives still on a single comment '
that Lord giveth thee
so it makes me hapyy
some guys still read this silly chappy

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
24th May 2017 (#)

But for me nothing after promise of lifetime payment is tough to overcome and get back into the groove.

Also, many have jumped out or gone into deep slumber! siva

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author avatar spirited
7th Jun 2017 (#)

A lot of these writings sites have closed off themselves altogether, at least wikinut is still allowing us to shell our nuts here, even if we no longer get paid for our doing so.

Here is another site closing soon, of which, I was also once an active member in it.

Hi Stevel,

Thank you for being a valued Bukisa user. We regret to inform you that Bukisa will be closing down effective July 6th, 2017. At that time, we will automatically be closing all accounts and removing all content from the website.

We have decided to discontinue the service due to the limited traction it gets these days.

If you have any questions between now and January 10th, please email me at simon@bukisa.com

Simon & The Bukisa Team

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Thanks Steve for the heads up.

I was there too but they changed payments to Google Adwords and then I lost my way - siva

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author avatar spirited
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Yes, I never ended getting paid anything from them either.

Google Adwords was a mystery to me too.

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author avatar spirited
8th Jun 2017 (#)

I have been writing for this site for the last year or so as well. They too have just announced they will stop paying their writers, as well. I had not been paid anything yet either. My earnings earnt were about $1, but there payout amount was $10, so I have lost that.

Dear Steve,

Due to the growing costs of running the platform and decreasing revenues in the advertising industry we won’t be able to continue rewarding you for the traffic you bring to the platform and will stop paying Niume creators for views after the end of this month. While we continue to believe that everyone who creates high quality content should be rewarded for their work, we are no longer able to provide that service directly.

In the coming months we will work on offering alternative sources of revenue to creators who join the platform, including custom content creation as well as influencer marketing opportunities. We will keep you updated in this regard.

Niume will continue operating exactly as it has until now, with all features continuing to work, including your analytics dashboard.

We sincerely hope despite this setback you will stick with Niume and continue being a part of our worldwide community of creators. However we understand that this is no small change and therefore have released a new feature which allows you to download all of your post content from Niume. You can find this feature in your settings, clicking on profile info and under the header of data download.

Best,

The Niume Team 27/05/2017 Niume.com

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
8th Jun 2017 (#)

I think we have to take it our efforts are by themselves the reward.

I hear Postloop is good and pays well - siva

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author avatar spirited
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Oh, I hadn't heard of that one.

I just had a look. It sounds a bit like mylot.

"Earn money posting at forums and blogs. No boring articles, tedious work, or stringent requirements. All that you need to do here is be natural and have fun.

Before you are approved for writing at Postloop, you must first make 10 trial posts at The Postloop Portal."

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
8th Jun 2017 (#)

I understand they want a certain standard, command, of the language. Many claim to have cashed out within days one after another - siva

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author avatar spirited
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Yes, if I feel like writing again for yet another site, maybe I might check it out.

I prefer to write articles though, rather than commenting on blogs.

I am one of those "boring" article writers they denigrate in their blurb...LOL...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Yeah they want articles.
I will also have a look soon - siva .

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
8th Jun 2017 (#)

To Siva, Spirited, and others, It is indeed a pity that many sites are closing. I have made more money from my blog over the past 12 months than from any writing site and I am not growing rich.

I believe the only way forward if to create a united writers co-operative where we as writers join together create our own site (using WordPress or something similar) then share advertising revenue (after the hosting costs are taken into account). I don't see us making millions, but it will provide a creative outlet, where we could make some money.

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author avatar Tranquilpen
25th Feb 2018 (#)

So then Peter, get onto it Siva, Carolan, Spirited, Mariah and soo many others will join you. I have in the mean time been writing for a weird site called Virily.com and dare I whisper the fact, that I H a v e r e c e i v ed a P a y p a l d e p o f $ 2 0 s o f a r .

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
26th Feb 2018 (#)

Hopefully Tranquilpen something can be worked out with cooperative effort.

Without payment this site will just drift in the high sea leading to nowhere - siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Agreed Peter, that would be an ideal platform. But it boils down to who will bell the cat as the efforts have to be well coordinated.

Some make hay even in fickle weather and they are fleet footed too.

Now Postloop is touted as the site that really pays with some even singing paeans how fast they are cashing out.

May be you can share your thoughts further about the Writers cooperative - Siva

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
8th Jun 2017 (#)

Siva, with postloop the point is I share my posts and have a community of people looking for things to read. If a reader seeks something I am writing about they will come directly to my blog. Is that correct? I wish to confirm my understanding of how it works.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
9th Jun 2017 (#)

I am not there yet.
So I am not sure.
I will check the site to know more. Few at myLot have been saying it pays well - siva

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author avatar spirited
8th Jun 2017 (#)

I think that is how some of these writing sites started. Writedge is one such site, where some writers got together and did this. It was only new when I joined it, and as I was writing for wikinut, I still haven't given much time to it, as you are paid by google adsense. I prefer direct payment to my paypal account. I am owed money by adsense from some writing sites, but it's too hard to follow these up, as to why real money ever came my way.

I have a blog on blogger.com, but very little traffic ever comes my way there.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
9th Jun 2017 (#)

Google Adsense did not reward me when I was with Bukisa.

I too would like direct payment to my PayPal account - siva

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author avatar spirited
8th Jun 2017 (#)

typo above: "real money never came my way"

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
9th Jun 2017 (#)

Spirited, I am sure other sites started that way. The key in my mind is developing a site that produces high-quality work that will be around for the long-haul.

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author avatar LOVERME
22nd Nov 2017 (#)

Will you give a tentative date
...so more can rejoin
And what are NUTS for
no one knows Petes

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author avatar spirited
10th Jun 2017 (#)

Article writing paying sites are now few and far between.

Sites like mylot, which are blogging sites seem to be doing better these days.

Such high quality work should be rewarded, as it takes much time and effort to produce such a piece of writing.

I prefer to write fiction, or poetry, because I do not like to spend too much time researching my facts, and other details. I just like to write, as I write.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Jun 2017 (#)

I like to interact based on posts expensing views on general topics of interest that will pave way for healthy discussions to enhance our understanding and thereby unite humanity.

I too am not keen to research for facts that is better left to those who

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Jun 2017 (#)

are more specialised and learned.

It should be expressssing in the above comment

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author avatar spirited
10th Jun 2017 (#)

Yes, wikinut comments cannot be edited. Mylot is better in that regard.

Yes, you seem to like to inter-react with other posters, probably a lot more than which I do.

I prefer to just write my own posts, mostly, and interact with only a few, rather than many.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
10th Jun 2017 (#)

I express my views, rather detailed, through comments and that, in a way, is akin to my own posts - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
21st Jul 2017 (#)

Leave not Wikis slot for Mylot... do you not know you came so far not to go....
as Wikis now does slow...
one day along with Mylot it also will go ..
but your comments on my poems will continue to flow ...
ere from this life's sojourn we also go
some day
one day
may not be far away
Mi Lord

So stay till the boat can sustain ...
use buckets to water drain and
some passing ship which
saved the Titanic's ...
will save you too and say...
here is the man all alone on the Wikis flag ship did stay and Loverme sang along with him all day
... may the passing world never forget what kind of works these two did beget ..
never forget

Amen for today
The sun sets to rise elsewhere
till a new dawn is reborn
and
...we both on a boat in the calmness of the breeze sail along...
as some one comes to us to say
awake
we say salaams guys you came our way
Wikis has gone far away..
we still continue to stay .Peters what would you now have to sad ,
do say!!!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2017 (#)

Thanks Loverme. I am still around waiting for a breath of fresh air by way of pennies again. If not I will be all alone, except you of course, posting which no one wants to comment. Then it is like hearing my echo.

As long as you post, I will read and comment. If that is reason enough, go ahead and post. If Wiki has no intention to pay then we cannot blame others staying away - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
23rd Oct 2017 (#)

THIS HAS BECOME THE HISTORCAL AR--TICKLE OF WIKINS--NUTS
4 all taims to come

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2017 (#)

Thanks Loverme, a plaintive cry from me that resonates with many - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
21st Dec 2017 (#)

YOUR LAST POST IS DATED 17 DEC 2015
ITS PASSED TWO YEA AND LORDZ ALL READ YOU STILL YOU THE EARTHLY GOD IN US INSPIRATION YOU STILL INSTILL WHO IS THE CREATOR BUT YOU 'TIS ANY ONES GUESS mi Lord I Bow

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2017 (#)

Yeah Loverme, I am getting still 400 reads a day! That is reason enough for Wiki to think of revival and back to happy family like before. The family may be in dire straits but that is no reason to abandon the ship.

Hope is never lost till we hang on. You are like the captain marvel seeing that others are safe - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
22nd Dec 2017 (#)

UPON your shoulders WIKIS LAY and coz of your inspiration alone I continue to play
Let Wikis have their own way they also will soon run away.
I got 1217 views today
...all reading 2010 poetry
..none comment any way Coz of you laurels i will have one day ..
MI LORDZ WHERE CAN I COME TO GARLAND YOU ONE DAY some day if not today

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
8th Jan 2018 (#)

wow congratulations...
i got over 8000 views in the last week...how i have no idea but i contacted my African editor who writes here and shares with all his associates my work and perhaps that is why...a conondrum for sure...blessings dear Loveme...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
9th Jan 2018 (#)

That says something dear Carolina that this site is alive and kicking. I still get nearly 400 views a day.

Hopefully the time is not far off for a return to our halcyon days - siva

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
22nd Dec 2017 (#)

You post and I comment and Wikis give out nuts for free!

Many run away but willing to come back for more than free nuts, maybe Bitcoin will entice them! Instead of nuts maybe Wiki coins is the way forward! siva

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
8th Jan 2018 (#)

i am still coming to wikinut to visit my very precious friends like you and others...so dearest Siva...my greetings to you for a most joyful and healthy 2018...you are always in my heart ...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
9th Jan 2018 (#)

Thank you dear Carolina for your heartfelt words.

I too visit the site to soak in the glorious moments we had and, hope against hope, that the site is revived to reward the contributors. Whatever said and done, we are creatures of hope and when there is zilch monetary reward it is natural for many to leave.

I wish you too, dear Carolina, the very best of wishes for 2018. Not a day passes without thinking of our dear friends that I had the great fortune to interact at few sites I have been for eight years - siva

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author avatar spirited
30th Jan 2018 (#)

It's amazing how many viewers still view the pages here. I am getting nearly 600 views here a day too.

I am sure it's got something to do with the name "wikinut" very clever to include the wiki tag word in there, in their site name.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Jan 2018 (#)

Yes, I too am surprised to get 3000 page views every week! It has tripled from what it was till couple of months ago.

With so much of interest that this site still generates I hope the site reverts to paying again so that this platform returns to past glory even if the reward for writers were nothing much to crow about! Something is better than nothing! siva

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author avatar spirited
31st Jan 2018 (#)

Yes, just that little bit, gives some type of incentive, as cents do grow into dollars over years.

I see their ads here have multiplied too, so the "owners" must be getting paid more now as well.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Jan 2018 (#)

Hopefully, they too see the light at the end of the tunnel and do what is needed before long.

This platform deserves to survive lifetimes as was promised to many who walked in like us - siva

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author avatar Teila
3rd Feb 2018 (#)

Good to see you still going strong. The art of writing is a gift in itself.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
4th Feb 2018 (#)

Hello Teila, you make me recall our memorable days when this site was a beehive of activity and joie de vivre.

Thank you for the kind words - siva

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author avatar Tranquilpen
25th Feb 2018 (#)

Reading through these comments, I come away with one conclusion, the utter dismay, of a tightly joined community, now falling silent. Lest I add insult to injury, heaven forbid, I currie silence at this juncture, much like the actions from "A smuggler's Song" by Rudyard Kipling where he writes:"If you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet, don't go drawing back the blind, or looking in the street, "Them that asks no questions isn't told a lie. I too will pay mylot a visit. God bless you all. Andre'
P.S. Teila is also on virily.com As I said above, my first $20 have been paid out in a little over 1 year. (residual income based)

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
26th Feb 2018 (#)

Thank you Tranquilpen for your comments.

Many stayed on at Wikinut despite payments being low but nil income is a real dampener for most. The site is now just existing without direction - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
2nd Apr 2018 (#)

may I ask of you what will 20 dollars in a yeqr fetch for you

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
1st May 2018 (#)

Loverme, it is not the amount of money but when the reward is nothing the site will be inactive. There will be no response to our posts - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
16th May 2018 (#)

amen then

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author avatar LOVERME
16th May 2018 (#)

The day had been very long tiring
I composed so many poetry for another site
where I am getting up growing up to be read
many world's poets throng the best one they say
poetry is a pastime all play ROBERT FROST STANDS OUT
NEXT IS MAYA ANGELOU THIRD IS SHAKESPEARE THEN ANOTHER ONE
SIXTH IS POET NOBEL PABLO NERUDA
ONE DAY I MAY BE
BUT MANY HAVE BEEN TOILING FOR YEARS
I DID NOT KNOW ELSE ''
I WOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN 1 OUT OF 500 ALL SEE
IN WIKI MY LIFE I have since wasted
I am posting it here you know why
the witch...

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st May 2018 (#)

You are following your passion Loveme. Yes, poetry is mostly a passion, but good to be inspired by the giants who are always remembered.

Poetry has the potential to uplift the soul and spread our inner thirst for love and affection - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
2nd Oct 2018 (#)

do you think i will also one day some if not today
join the giants club

but u may

be happy here i come today to add on some nuts
u eat em LORDSZ u may

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Oct 2018 (#)

Thanks Loverme, we need to support each other, keep company - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
2nd Oct 2018 (#)

My passion is my first love and then now my passion is my poetry composing sitting in no not under a tree but a cold rooom fully AC very cold within feel like having rum and gin but they say have water plenty you have a HIGHHHH BEEEEEE PPEEE..WHATEVER IT MAY BE
I KNOW ONLY BP

Let's see who beats me LORDS OF POETRICK VALLEYS

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Oct 2018 (#)

Keep them coming, no need for moderation. People who want to read will know how to dig deeper and deeper - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
24th Oct 2018 (#)

worlds significant writer please give him a STANDING OVATION ERE WIKI'S MASTERS just SWITCH OFF

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
31st Oct 2018 (#)

Thanks Loverme, we are at Wiki's mercy - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
7th Dec 2018 (#)

no mercy
they r nice
making money as u and I are keeping Wikis alive
yesterday 1300 PLUS today 800 MINUS READS
SINE CURVE WAVERS

don't u think its Money for Wikis they r earning on our shoulders for free
so be happy till they become extremely wealthy
all is MONEY AND SEX IN THIS LIFE
POETRY BESIDES this is just to satisfy OUR EGO SO don't let go so many love us also

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2018 (#)

We can park ours for free. Sadly, many already flee - siva

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author avatar SaigonDeManila
19th Dec 2018 (#)

Business unusual....

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
19th Dec 2018 (#)

No news, views, but the doors are left wide open - siva

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author avatar LOVERME
25th Dec 2018 (#)

740 ME CONGRATS LORDSHIP

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Sep 2019 (#)

Thanks Loverme, visiting my pages after a real long time! siva

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author avatar Delicia Powers
20th Jan 2019 (#)

Stop by to read some of your very elegantly written pages Siva (as I often do,) here on the upper eastern seaboard of the states, we are in the midst of a another mighty blizzard, so I am writing some poetry to pass the day, (and as long as the power stays on) baking some yummy wintery warming treats to eat. This makes me feel nostalgic for the sharing of times we all did on Wikinut. Hope you are well, and have a very happy New Year ahead Siva, to you and all your family....

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author avatar LOVERME
22nd Apr 2019 (#)

haven't heard from you ma'am hope all is well
HAPPY EASTER

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Sep 2019 (#)

Thank you Delicia.

Sorry, I did nor reply earlier as I was not visiting my pages. I do check on Loverme posts every day! Now another winter is on the anvil and our life is accelerating too.

YCN and Wikinut were my cup of tea and I miss the good old times but nothing is permanent, so we have to move on. I am on myLot but not active like before.

Memories of lovely times will replay all the time and kind of you to remember me. My warm regards - siva

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author avatar Loverme
6th Jun 2019 (#)

this is longer than my poem of 2007 how many pages lordz claim damages

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author avatar LOVERME
14th Aug 2019 (#)

LORDZ WHERE RU WHY SILENT FOR OVER A WEEK ITS UNNERVING LORDZ

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Sep 2019 (#)

Loverme, I visit yours all the time but hardly mine! siva

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author avatar Delicia Powers
25th Sep 2019 (#)

Siva your profound empathy is a golden thread, your writings here on Wikinut ... evergreen!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
28th Sep 2019 (#)

Thanks for such kind and encouraging words Delicia. I too miss your lovely, inimitable poems and also Mike's photos. We are left with memories to chew over! siva

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author avatar FRIEND
27th Sep 2019 (#)

ONG TIME WHEN I GET THINGS BACK IN THE MEANTIME WIKI MAY PACK STAY TUNED PL

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
29th Sep 2019 (#)

Yes, we need to be patient - siva

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author avatar Loverme
2nd Oct 2019 (#)

yes my lordz my real laps top is zinxed

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
4th Oct 2019 (#)

Take a breather Loverme - siva

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author avatar Tranquilpen
10th Nov 2019 (#)

I'm glad to see you are still around Siva. I just dropped by to see how you were. Regards Andre

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