Oops! I Lost a Follower

Phyl CampbellStarred Page By Phyl Campbell, 10th Aug 2014 | Follow this author | RSS Feed | Short URL http://nut.bz/thl_58l7/
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Every now and again, it happens. Someone stops following you. How do you know when it happens and what can you do about it? Read on to find out.

Gaining Followers the Wikinut Way

Gaining followers on Wikinut is a fairly simple business. Take a look at the highlighted pages and choose articles you'd like to read, then up at the top, choose to follow the author who wrote those articles. If you'd rather find authors who write what you write, investigate the Page Categories tool to the side of the page. Follow that link, choose an article, and if you like what that author has written, click his or her Follow link near their name at the top of bottom of the page. Each time you choose to follow someone, you give that writer five Nutpoints, and in a positive situation, s/he will follow you back, giving you five Nutpoints in return.

Once you follow a writer on Wikinut, you will receive a message each time s/he posts an article that the moderators approve for publication. You can check your messages under Your Menu / Your account / Read your messages (see the image for this section). If you click on the article, you give the author a view, which helps them earn money. Each time you comment, you give the author an additional two nutpoints.

Watch Out for Falling Nutpoints!

However, sometimes you decide to stop following a writer, or a writer decides to stop following you. When one Wikinut stops following another Wikinut, the five points originally earned from the follower are taken away.

Why would one writer stop following another?

I am usually unfollowed because someone does not share my views (generally on religion or politics, my book reviews and how-tos are generally unscathed), or is unable to handle my constructive criticism of his or her articles.

This summer, I was unfollowed by someone when I wrote that sections and photos would make his or her non-starred article better. The person unfollowed me, made the changes, received a star on the article, and decided to follow me again. That was a happy ending with which I was quite satisfied. So when I think a simple comment from me would help another writer get views and have better quality, I will comment as such. It is worth the risk of being unfollowed by someone who would rather spew garbage than compose successful pieces.

I was also unfollowed by a person who was making sweeping (and erroneous) statements to further his or her political views. My comment to that writer stated my dissatisfaction with the error, and pleaded with the writer to engage in dialogue truthfully, not just put everything in black and white terms. I guess that writer wanted neither dialogue nor to be honest. I can handle not having that junk among my messages.

Reasons I'm Unfollowed

I'm occasionally unfollowed by people who do not like it when I speak to hypocrisy in religion, especially in the ways I feel it overreaches into American politics and governmental rulings. I am happy to allow (since it was never my place to deny) a person to attend whatever church they desire and worship whatever way they want. However, when people's mega-churches are untaxed entities, they send their children to private untaxed church schools to prevent them from mingling with the great unwashed, and yet still expect others to foot the bill for employment benefits when they won't pay their employees a living wage, well, I have some issues with those things. As a feminist, I am going to write about those things. I am going to argue that the all the welfare benefits in the US don't equal the amount lost on tax loopholes for the uber-rich -- which are often male white Protestant Christians or their descendants, and I'm going to say that a person can't be a practicing Christian and work to thwart help for another person, regardless of religious beliefs. Giving a thousand dollars a month to charity or handing someone a sandwich in exchange for making them attend Bible study don't sit well with me when the church receiving the money or doling out the sandwiches has a pastor who lives in a mega mansion and drives a Ferrari. I don't understand how people can defend that lifestyle and claim they follow a guy who hung out with lepers and healed the sick, made sweeping statements about the rich not getting into Heaven, and said the greatest commandment was to love one another. If you unfollow me because I refuse to accept those things, well, I can do without you, too.

On the other hand, I'm going to offend liberals when I say that guns don't kill people unless the person behind the gun intends to kill people. I live in or near areas where many gun owners are more trustworthy than chiefs of police, mayors, or city representatives. I may only own air-soft pistols (one step removed from paintball guns), but I don't think taking guns from law abiding citizens is a solution to the problem of gun violence. Guns involved in major assaults are obtained lawfully and then used unlawfully. Therefore, I think law-breakers are the problem, not the guns. The refusal to treat mental illness as a major health issue (and allow insurance to pay for diagnostics and medication as medical necessities) is a problem. But that goes back to the wealthy making the laws -- which is why having a dialogue is important.

Dialogue for the Common Good

We need to discuss ideas and work to avoid loopholes. I think both sides of any divide that are concerned with the common good are much closer than those who willfully intend harm would have us believe. So we need to shut out those who intend harm to us -- spiritual, financial, emotional, or bodily harm -- expose them, call them out, and shut them down -- then we can get on with the real task of solving the problems our nation has.

The environment is a final point where I don't think anyone has unfollowed me yet, but it could happen. I think the Left and Right political sides of the US are not as far apart as radicals to either side tell us we are. We do not live with nature, as Native Americans did, or as cave men or animals did. We throw away too much garbage. At the same time, some of our recycling efforts cause more pollution than using a landfill. Transportation that is practical in cities is much less feasible in rural areas, and economics (including subsidies) still play a major factor in the lobbying that goes into making our laws. Even finding the facts is difficult when both sides go to such lengths to skew data to their own ends.

Our only answer is working towards common goals.

Reactions

The first time I was unfollowed, I took it quite personally and thought that meant I should not ever be critical of another writer. But now I feel that is rubbish. Positive comments are all fine and well done, but if writers do not challenge each other to do better, and only praise, praise, praise, the site as a whole becomes disreputable. I see some comments from people and I just KNOW that the commenter did not bother to even skim what was written. How does that help create a dialogue? How does that benefit the writer -- beyond two Nutpoints?

What should a person do when unfollowed?

I don't know what a person should or shouldn't do in any situation; however, when I am unfollowed, I respond in kind. If the person I unfollow writes a brilliant article, I will see it among the featured star pages, or another Wikinut contact may tell me to go have a look. Sadly more than once, a writer I've unfollowed has written a title that caught my eye, and I follow it to discover that true foulness is afoot -- plagiarism, libel, or personal attacks that somehow got past the overworked moderator's watchful eye. The writer may have gotten the hit from my viewing their page, but s/he also got their page reported for violating Wikinut policies. Engaging in non-professional personal attacks or plagiarizing can cause a Wikinut user to be banned from the site. Banned users can still add comments as a guest, some of you may be familiar with one who often does so poetically. Sometimes, banned users may write a comment worth some value to the writer. Oftentimes, though, such comments are better accepted, ignored, or deleted.

No More Mrs. Nice!

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So people will unfollow me and I will unfollow back. More often, people don't unfollow, but just stop reading articles or commenting. I'm not sure if it is better to read without commenting, to comment without reading, or to unfollow. I'm sure different writers have different views on this, and I hope they will feel free to share those thoughts in the COMMENT section below.

Given the number of articles that I comment on without reciprocation, such writers won't be able to see the writing on the wall, but it is here and they are warned:

I have found unfollow, and I will make it my friend.

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Followers, Nutpoints, Phyl Campbell, Politics, Religion, Unfollow, Wikinut

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
I am "Author, Mother, Dreamer." I am also teacher, friend, Dr. Pepper addict, night-owl. Visit my website -- phylcampbell.com -- or the "Phyl Campbell Author Page" on Facebook.

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author avatar Etc.
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Since I'm new here, I didn't know when you were 'unfollowed' the wiki-points would be backed out--but that seems reasonable. I suppose that's only for what hasn't been paid out.

For myself, I try to conscientiously read the people I follow. It takes awhile to read enough to know that I want to continue. I tend to make my decisions not based on whether or not I agree with someone, but on whether I'm enjoying the read. There are many people I disagree with who bring interesting things to the table for consideration.

If I'm reading writers, I prefer to read people who write well (I'm talking about creative writers); I don't expect as much when I'm reading articles.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Well, Nutpoints are separate from page views, so there are no payments to lose.
As for the rest, you and me both. I read anything and everything -- to a point.
Thanks for commenting. I have enjoyed reading your contributions.

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
11th Aug 2014 (#)

I do follow a large number of people but rarely unfollow.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

I don't know how those of you who have been with Wikinut for years manage your message boxes. I really don't.
Thanks for the mod, star, and all the support. I hope your eye is having a good day, and that you are taking it easy.

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Today I am working hard, because I need changes to happen.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Well, you and your body know what is best!! Take good care!!

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author avatar spirited
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Interesting article Phyl.

I guess we have to let people be who they are, but that shouldn't ever stop us from being true to our own selves too.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Yes, Spirited. You've got it in spades as usual. Thanks.

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author avatar Clarence Schreiber
11th Aug 2014 (#)

I try to read some articles when I am online on here. Sometimes I will leave a comment and sometimes I don't. When I don't leave a comment doesn't mean that I didn't like it. There has been some has been very good.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Hi Clarence. I am glad to see you here and am glad you commented on this one. I can tell you read some as you post, and this is to be expected. My larger complaint is for those who post 6 or 7 recycled articles a day and don't contribute in any other way. You know I appreciate your posts when I get the chance to read them.

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Aug 2014 (#)

good on you Phyl writing this and I say bugger off to those silly folk who unfollow you and the ones who like a train of well pecked hens unfollowed me because some silly woman got on her high horse over an imagined slight...ha!

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Oh, Caro, dear woman!! What a pair of uncompromising women we are!! We are silly and smart and lovely until crossed. Then we are a lot more fun, but not for everyone!

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Aug 2014 (#)

I total agree Phyl and am having a great roar of laughter too at your succinct comment...

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author avatar Ptrikha
11th Aug 2014 (#)

While I am not blaming anyone, nor I am a saint without any human follies, but I find that nmost of the people have double standards. They want that other people praise what they say or write, yet they themselves like to be critical of other people, often unreasonably. And if other people criticize them, or even just show a disagreement, with valid logic, these people become angry and show displeasure.
In short, a kind of hypocrisy. Now, to some extent, I also at times show displeasure with someone who criticizes me, but then, I am quite sensible on Online sites like Wikinut. I agree or disagree with valid reasons. As for unfollowing, I did unfollow an author once, because he had started writing on topics which did not interest me, and not because of differences in views.

On the other hand, if you or some other folk begins criticizing me heavily for what I wrote, I for one would be more delighted, that at least people are reading seriously what I write :)

I appreciate your free and frank views.

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Aug 2014 (#)

I agree with what you write above Ptrikha...well said...

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Thanks, Ptrikha! Well said!

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author avatar Retired
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Good article. I had trouble reading it at first too - it didn't come up normal. I suppose that might have been what happened when you viewed my latest article. But I hit refresh on my browser and it came up fine. And had interesting points on followers.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Thanks. I tried refresh, but it didn't work. Some days everything is fine. It happens. Thanks for the comment.

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author avatar Retired
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Maybe some followers don't like your "lectures."
Maybe some followers would like the liberty of free expression.
Maybe some followers think your point of view is junk, ill-informed, and one-sided.
Get over it, Phyl, and put down the gun. It's only 5 points.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Taking it personally, LeRain? I pointed out several reasons to be unfollowed from my own experience. Some new people are still trying to figure out the ropes. I am glad you aren't having any problems. And as a recent unfollower of mine, you are under no obligation to read my articles. I thought that was why you unfollowed me. But thanks for referring to my POV as uninformed junk. I love your approach to an open forum of shared ideas.

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author avatar Delicia Powers
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Interesting points shared... thanks Phyl...

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Thanks, Delicia. I know you are a reader who does not see eye to eye with my views, and I am glad we can still follow each other w/o vitriol.

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author avatar Delicia Powers
12th Aug 2014 (#)

truth is at my age I am pretty comfortable in my beliefs - I probably do not see eye- to- eye with anyone's views...my are so very uniquely mine-LOL!... Like most writers I seek to read and understand more about life's wide and amazing diversities ... thanks Phyl-;0)

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author avatar Ptrikha
13th Aug 2014 (#)

At times honest disagreement is much better than hidden style of agreeing in front, and having different views otherwise. Ain't it? :)

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
13th Aug 2014 (#)

I know I think so! I also think there is a difference between someone having an opinion and someone saying something factually untrue. Thanks for your comment.

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author avatar Retired
11th Aug 2014 (#)

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, including posts on "nut"! If I don't agree with someone's POV, I don't make a big deal over it, I just move on or say I don't agree. That's just how I roll. We all need to remember...if you're putting your work out for public viewing, be prepared for criticism or suggestions, or for those that simply don't like it, just like any other author in national magazines and newspapers. It's all part of the job.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Very true, Lavender. And it is always interesting to see what I write that encourages multiple responses versus other articles that may only merit one or two. I have noticed, for example, that simple articles about the Wikinut experience tend to get more views and comments. Not sure why that is, but for this forum I will keep doing what earns --nutpoints or hits!

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
12th Aug 2014 (#)

knew this would lead to much dissertation! great! when people unfollow it is their own stuff seeing through a glass darkly!!!! nothing to do with the writer...

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Except when I unfollow. Then it's perfectly understandable. Bwa ha ha ha ha!!

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author avatar snerfu
12th Aug 2014 (#)

I unfollow someone when I see he or she is not interested in my articles...happens frequently, even I do not like my articles sometimes. But now I learnt unfollow is taboo. I am beginning to make amends. Good article there Phyl.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Taboo, yes, but sometimes a good thing. Depends on how high your blood pressure is! ;)
Many thanks for YOUR interest, Snerfu!

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author avatar Retired
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Good star page and a relevant subject for we wikinutters.

I think sometimes people may unfollow because they do not have time to read all articles and the in-boxes get so full. i have thought of doing that myself, especially on people who never read or comment on my work. However, I decided not to because of not wanting to hurt their feelings. I tend to follow back anyone who follows me, but that does not mean I want to read all their writing. It's simply a polite response.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
12th Aug 2014 (#)

Very astute point, rama devi nina. Now that I have a black belt and can afford to lose the nutpoints, I have considered that very thing. The inboxes do get very full and it is hard to read so many articles and comment coherently. And following back is certainly a polite response regardless of viewpoint, just as snerfu pointed out that unfollowing (without cause) may be seen as taboo. Thanks for your interest and your comment.

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author avatar Retired
14th Aug 2014 (#)

I always follow back someone who follow me. And always read their latest articles atleast one time to increase my knowledge.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
15th Aug 2014 (#)

Thanks muddu98. I appreciate your comment and follow/follow back. Some people commented very intelligently that they may choose not to read or comment on every article, especially if they know that the subject matter is sensitive. I can respect that, even as I continue to engage with others.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
16th Aug 2014 (#)

Interesting views and comments, Phyl. I used to read and then follow those I liked, but now I have been following almost all, but I do not get any messages when they post articles. I get messages in my Inbox only when someone posts a comment on my articles. I do not think anyone has unfollowed me on purpose. I have seen at times reduction in my followers and I assume they have moved out of Wikinut permanently - siva

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
17th Aug 2014 (#)

Must be a settings thing. I may need to look into that and adjusting mine if possible. It would make my Wikinut experience much more manageable. Thank you for the suggestion, and all your comments, general and specific.

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
17th Aug 2014 (#)

Phyl, it may be due to my following others just by clicking on the follow button next to their name at the top - siva

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
18th Aug 2014 (#)

I do the same. But from your profile page, you can change the alerts you receive. At first, when I was a new Wikinut, I check the boxes to receive ALL the notifications and to send them to my email address. After the first month, I unchecked the boxes for being sent notice of every comment in a conversation and stopped sending messages to email. After reading your message, I went back and changed that setting. Wow! SO much better with that box unchecked! !

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author avatar Retired
23rd Aug 2014 (#)

I think I am unlikely to unfollow (strange word unfollow) anyone because of their opinions, beliefs or prejudices. I have been sidetracked over the past few months and have not read as many articles as I would have liked to, but I am doing my best to catch up now. I am fortunate in that so far I haven't lost any of my (not yet many) followers and I hope that they will continue to read my scribblings.

If any reader disagrees with anything I write, so be it. If I was afraid of negative opinions I would not be writing on Wikinut.

I appreciate the sound advice I have received from time to time Wikinut writers on how to get the best out of Wikinut and do not regard such advice as negative input but as valuable input. I also appreciate it if someone adds further information to anything I write. For example, if I write about a tourism destination and a reader knows of an attraction I have overlooked, I welcome the input. Could be a good hotel in the area or a restaurant with amazingly good food, whatever. After all, sharing our knowledge and experiences is the main reason we are here, isn't it?

I am interested in a wide range of subjects (although somewhat biased toward good writers) and frequently add a positive comment. If I don't add a comment it is because I feel a comment is not required or I cannot add any useful input to the article. It doesn't mean I didn't like what I read.

My in-box is often filled with emails about new articles and updates and I don't find that a problem. It does make me feel guilty that I have been neglectful in reading articles posted on Wikinut, though.

Now I have to get back to the more than 800 messages ...........

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
24th Aug 2014 (#)

After reading Siva's comment above, I disabled the notifications of new pages from people I follow, and am instead looking at the 10 new pages from people I follow off to the side when I log in. It has made me much happier, if lazier. ;) Thanks for taking time out of those 800 articles to comment on mine.

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author avatar Kingwell
24th Aug 2014 (#)

I don't think I have un-followed anyone as yet.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
25th Aug 2014 (#)

You're a good man, Kingwell!

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author avatar Smileworld
2nd Sep 2014 (#)

Thanks for the information. I am new in this site and presently exploring the "hows" that can increase views on my articles and earning as well.

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author avatar Phyl Campbell
3rd Sep 2014 (#)

Thanks, Smileworld! I was doing a lot of that last year. Welcome to Wikinut!

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author avatar SauravBanerjee
11th Sep 2014 (#)

Since I am new to Wikinut, this article of yours served as a learning experience. Thanks!

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