Reasons I THOUGHT about suspending my activities on wikinuts

Jongleur By Jongleur, 27th Sep 2015 | Follow this author | RSS Feed | Short URL http://nut.bz/w_198lhq/
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Since I cannot get anyone to respond to my questions from the contact us link, nor from the moderators, I am doing it this way. I have all ideas this will not be approved for publication.

Reasons I will be suspending my activities on wikinuts

I have asked, in the "contact us" link, then again in the "notes to the moderator" section of one of my articles, questions about the OWNERSHIP of what I write and post. I have not received any response to this.

I then went to the Wikinuts Terms of Use. There, it gets (to me) hopelessly mired in confusion.
Proprietary rights and grant of licence

We do not claim ownership of your Material. Any Material will be owned by you or the third party who authorised you to publish and use the Material.

You may only submit Material to the Website in which you own all intellectual property rights or for which you have the authorisation of the third party who does own those rights.

Everything I have posted, has been composed and written by me, a couple have included a quote from another author, with credit citations given.

Then a couple of lines later the terms of use get very murky:

By posting, uploading or submitting Material to the Website, you grant Us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty free, permanent irrevocable perpetual right and license to:


Then, the kicker:
We have the right to modify or edit the Material. While your retain ownership of all right, title, and interest in the Material itself, you agree that We own all right, title and interest in any compilation, collective work or other derivative work created by Us using or incorporating the Material.

You further irrevocably and unconditionally waive any moral rights you have in any Material and you waive all rights to inspect and approve use of the Material.

So, this reads to me, that I own what I write, but wikinuts is telling me that, as they say when you are a child, "it is yours, but it is mine what you do with it".

This is confusing, and if **I** am reading it correctly, it is intolerable.

What I write is mine. I will quite probably be attempting to publish a book of my writings, and I don't want wikinuts claiming I don't have that right, having given them the "irrevocably and unconditionally waive any moral rights you have in any Material and you waive all rights to inspect and approve use of the Material."

Unless I hear something that clarifies and/or ameliorates my feelings of misgivings, this will be sayonara for me.

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Confusion, Disinformation

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author avatar Jongleur
I play piano and sing for the Elderly in care facilities in Atlanta for 8 yrs. I am also a CNA (Certified Nursing Assistant) I work for a home care agency now, as a patient transport.

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author avatar Mark Gordon Brown
27th Sep 2015 (#)

The Contact Us button has long been useless, I wish they would get rid of it.
I am sorry if any of us missed your question in the Notes section.
The best way to contact a moderator is to message them directly (click the photo and hit Contact).
YOU keep the rights to your article, meaning you can re-publish it elsewhere if you wish.
Moderators cannot edit your article, we will never change anything, we can reject it if it is below standard (or contains material not allowed here).

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author avatar Jongleur
27th Sep 2015 (#)

Thanks, I feel better now. I had no idea that I could 'click' on your profile pic and click 'contact' to send a message.
Do you all think I should delete this article now, or should it be left for anyone else who has these misgivings?

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author avatar Mark Gordon Brown
27th Sep 2015 (#)

I would leave the article, it may help others who have similar concerns.

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author avatar L. R. Laverde-Hansen
27th Sep 2015 (#)

I think the terms essentially state that the material is yours, you can take it anywhere you want and you don't need anyone's permission BUT you (ie. "The Author") if we (ie, Wikinut) decide to use that ma

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author avatar L. R. Laverde-Hansen
27th Sep 2015 (#)

(Continued from before)...if we (ie, "Wikinut") decide to use that material in another format, or promotion, or to lend it to someone else's publication, by virtue of you publishing your work here on Wikinut, you authorize us to do so.

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author avatar Jongleur
27th Sep 2015 (#)

Thanks, I feel better now. I had no idea that I could 'click' on your profile pic and click 'contact' to send a message.
Do you all think I should delete this article now, or should it be left for anyone else who has these misgivings?

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
27th Sep 2015 (#)

Jongleur, I wished you had sent me a message directly then I could have answered your question.

First thing you should know is that your material remains your copyright (that is the text and the pictures that you post). But there is also a publisher's copyright that should be considered, which relates to fonts, layout, style etc. which Wikinut retains, that if they changed how each page was laid out you have no rights over.

There is no problem about using quotes, provided the whole article is not made up of quotations, which I have seen.

Regarding the right to edit/modify work - the only people who can do this are the owners, not the moderators and the only reason that is included in the rights page is because the owners may be forced to remove certain wording as a result of a court order, and that is in my knowledge the only reason that is stated. As mark said moderators cannot change anything.

That section on moral rights is one that doesn't really apply to the way that Wikinut operates as there is no way to create a compendium of material posted on the site. Also I suspect their lawyers just added standard publishing terms & conditions.

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author avatar Jongleur
27th Sep 2015 (#)

Well then. I feel better. I wonder if I was the only one to have these reservations? Do you, all of you who have responded here, want to leave this for others to see and understand, or should I remove this article?

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author avatar Mark Gordon Brown
27th Sep 2015 (#)

Leave it!

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
28th Sep 2015 (#)

Leave it.

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author avatar Fern Mc Costigan
29th Sep 2015 (#)

leave it and stay my friend your work is much appreaciated by many of us here in Wikinuts, very well the support you are getting from peter Giblett and Mark Gordon Brown as well many of us.You are an asset to our site!

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author avatar Jongleur
29th Sep 2015 (#)

Once again I am grateful to you Fern, thank you.

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author avatar Song Muze
11th Oct 2015 (#)

i just joined.. and your notice made me wary. But, thanks to the replies - it's all Good!

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author avatar Jongleur
11th Oct 2015 (#)

Yes, I had some serious doubts after the first week or so, but I feel much better about it now myself. Good to see you on here Song Muze, I can't wait to see what you'll be writing.♥

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