Vice President Joseph Biden Debate: "Say it 'isn't So, Joe!" Part I

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What I have taken away from the Vice Presidential debate is, a lot of 'lies', not enough content worthy of the American peoples time and unanswered questions. The disrespect this man shown was beyond belief, to say the least. Yes, I feel the democrat mascot of a jackass fits this guy to a tee.

Here We Go Joe!

I wish Martha Raddatz (whom moderated the debate) would have had a bit more control of the situation in the room. She allowed the vice president to be the bully in the room and at times, she herself would interject a question towards Representative Paul Ryan, right as he was finishing his point, on another issue. It was as if I was watching an uneven tag team wrestling match.

The only thing was, this team was not playing by the rules, as team Biden/Raddatz were in the ring at the same time. I must say though that Mr. Ryan held his own and in the face of a screaming, obnoxious and downright disrespectful opponent, he was able to not only have the facts to stand next to him, he also brought out the lies in Mr. Biden.

I feel that Vice President Joe Biden 'did not' give us American people enough respect during this debate. We want questions answered as we do have a lot of them. I feel this man owed us at the very least an honest debate between both sides, we got none of that from Joe.

Bulldozer Joe would not even allow his opponent the time to explain his plan. Who knows, maybe if he had, we wouldn't of liked it, maybe Joe just needs to know, when to hold'em.

Just let Joe go on and on...

We will go through what Joe knows throughout these next few weeks, until November 6, 2012, our election day for the next President of the Untied States of America and talk about all his lies.

I feel 'We the People' deserve the darn truth and nothing less.

This video clip shows just exactly what Mr. Ryan was up against. I am not saying to vote as I do, I am just telling you, check out each candidates records. When they say something, go look it up.

Find out the truth! Our country is depending on you to be well informed voters, that's all I am asking for.

What'cha Know Joe...

Yes Senator Wyden did co-sponsor the “Guaranteed Choices to Strengthen Medicare and Health Security for All: Bipartisan Options for the Future,” and in 'his' website archives he says he also believes in this plan. He has since backed off from this proposal, his choice.

The bottom line is: 'No', Mr. Ryan was not a liar: Senator Wyden and Representative Ryan did put out a proposal.

Thursday, December 15, 2011
WASHINGTON – This morning, U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) and U.S. Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) introduced a new proposal that represents a major advance in the effort to build a more secure future for the millions of seniors who rely on Medicare.

Source: www.wyden.senate.gov

This proves to me, that 'yes' this man Mr. Ryan is not only willing to work together with 'all' those in the legislative branch but he also knows, we 'need' to work together to get things done and fix the problems that lay before us American people, this is exactly what we do need.

It also shows, Joe Biden is a liar.

Here 'he' Goes Again!

'Yes' Representative Paul Ryan has worked with the former President Clinton's Budget Director, Alice Rivlin and also, former Chief of staff for President Clinton, Eskine Bowles and that would be...

When President Obama signed an executive order (E.O. 13531). The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and reform.

At this time in our history, we had a democrat controlled Senate and House in congress.

Part of the deal was that President Obama would chose 7 members.

The majority leader's in the house and Senate were able to choose 3 members each, making a total of 6 members.

Minority leaders in the house and senate were also able to choose 3 members each, making a total of 6 members.

Source: www.whitehouse.gov

The Bi-Partisan Commission

These are the individuals that made up the commission...

President Obama's appointees: Erskine Bowles, Alan Simpson, Dave M. Cote, Andy Stern, Alice Rivlin, Ann M. Fudge and Bruce Reed.

Majority Leader, Senator Reid's picks: Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Illinois), Sen. Max Baucus (D-Montana) and Sen. Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)

Speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi's picks: Rep. John * Spratt (D-South Carolina), Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-California) and Rep. Jan Schakowsky.

Minority Leader, Senator Mitch McConnell picks: Sen. Judd Gregg (R-New Hampshire), Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Oaklahoma) and Sen. Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota).

Minority Leader of the House, Representative John Boehner picks: Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin), Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) and Dave Camp (R-Michigan).

When Vice President Biden Makes a statement in front of the American people that no, Mr. Ryan did not work with the former Budget Director Alice Rivilin, he is not telling the truth...

The Ryan/Rivlin Proposal.

The bottom line to me is: Even though the final proposal was voted down, I honestly feel these people went into this job in good faith and wanted to work with each other.

As with each and every negotiation, not all will be successful but, at least these 19 people did try and solve a problem that has been coming down the pike for a long time.

Sniff, Sniff...

Yes Mr. Vice President, my sights are set on you and exposing your lies. I have provided only a two minute clip of a 90 minute debate. Do I have more of Joe's lies, you bet I do, I just did not know where to start, there were so many.

I picked this clip because, I wanted to show that even on the small stuff, Joe can not shut up long enough to realize just exactly what is coming out of his pie hole and lies just stream out. My treasure chest (sadly), is full of Biden lies and they go back a long time, not just since he has been vice president, yes Joe, I know.

You see Joe, us regular folks are not as dumb as you think we are. Most of us are well informed voters and we do pay attention.

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Denise O: My Views

Please take the time to go read a well written article on this Vice Presidential Debate...

The Vice Presidential Debate: Written by Judy Ellen

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author avatar C.T. Aretz
13th Oct 2012 (#)

This is very well-written and backed up, however, I'm sure that both of them had their stretching's, bending's, or absence of the whole truth. The only problem is, Joe was being rude. He wasn't given Ryan is two cents. Joe was being extremely aggressive and combative. It wasn't endearing to the public and it probably cost him valuable brownie points with onlookers and viewers. I'm for Obama but, I can safely say that if they don't get on the ball, Obama and the vice president will lost their campaign.

One more thing, it's funny how Romney interrupted Obama and for some reason, according to some it was different than what Joe did in his debate against Ryan. Then it was said that Romney had the upper hand in that debate, however, Joe did not when he was the interrupter, doing the same things that Romney did.

Again, this was a great post, thank you for sharing it. I'm not here to cause a debate, I just wanted to confirm that I agree with you but, I don't agree with the hypocrisy. It just seems that the Republicans have been the favorites before these debates even started.

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author avatar C.T. Aretz
13th Oct 2012 (#)

In the first paragraph I meant to say, that Joe wasn't 'giving Ryan his two cents'.

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author avatar Denise O
13th Oct 2012 (#)

Really C.T., when did this happen, the republicans had the edge, geesh. I understand you want no debate but, if you bring some thing up and I disagree with you then I must point it out. The bottom line is, you vote for whom you choose, I have stated that in my article, just know the issues is all I ask. I have displayed 2 minutes of this rude and overbearing bully as the liar he is and I have yet to hit on the next what, 88 minutes. I don't know how you feel but, I wanted to hear a debate and not this idiot interrupting over 80 times, come on! But you miss my whole point, he is a liar and I have proven it on the least damaging of his BS. Oh for sure, I have only begun. As I have said before, your vote your choice, that's cool. As far as hyposcrisy, I don't see any. I don't think I even mention Romney's name in the article, this is about this debate. Thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar C.T. Aretz
15th Oct 2012 (#)

Okay, I understand but, those two debates are indirecly related. I brought up Mitt. You said Biden was a bully, I'm saying that Mitt was no different. Maybe Biden chose to give the Republican Party a bit of their own medicine, that was also said by the experts after the debate. It back fired and I guess what I'm pointing out is, in my opinion, Biden did nothing different from what some of the republicans have been doing, unfortunately Biden is on the disfavored side. Just my opinion.

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author avatar Denise O
13th Oct 2012 (#)

I checked, nope not one mention of Romney or the last presidential debate, so no hypocrisy here. See my friend, this is not a dem or a repub think for me, neither are my party, it is about the truth.:)

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author avatar Judy Ellen
13th Oct 2012 (#)

This is a very outstanding article and I can see that you put a great deal of research and time into it!! Your writing skills are absolutely awesome! You blew me away with this one!!! I usually don't get involved with politics because of all the lies in the Ads but this time out of love for my country I had to speak out just as you are. I am truly afraid for the future of my grandchildren if our country keeps heading in the same direction!

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author avatar Denise O
13th Oct 2012 (#)

Judy, I have always been interested in government, just call me a nerd in this area. I am not a party type of gal and I never have been, I vote for whom I feel will be right for the job. To me, the truth is the truth and that is it. When we dig into the library of congress and see exactly what those in office say when we folks are not looking, is so telling. Biden has given me decades of material. I was so turned off from Obama when he picked Biden and in a few weeks, you will find out just what made my jaw drop, as I read this man's mouth run, in a closed door meeting, it will then scare the heck out of you. Also another thing he can not dispute, as he said these words himself and the records show it. As I have said to C.T. (also in my article) no matter whom you vote for, just be informed. Now after saying my initial response of why Obama first turned me off, I then paid close attention to what he was saying and then I knew, I could never vote for this man. Thank you for the use of your link. If folks do not want to support us because we go against the norm on this site then all I have to say is, what happened to tolerance. As always hon, thank you for sharing.:)

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author avatar vpaulose
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Hot politics. Thank you.

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author avatar Denise O
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Thank you Brother Paul for those very kind words. Love it! As always, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar M G Singh
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Thank you Denise for an excellent write up. In the US the vice presidential debate is considered lightweight, but may be in a small way it can have an effect. As it stands Mitt is catching up fast to Obama. Your analysis of the politics involved is exceptional.

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author avatar Denise O
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Oh for sure Madan, it usually doesn't mean much but this time, since Obama did so poorly during his last debate, more people paid attention and I also must add...
The more days that go by and the more lies that are exposed, the more people have been wondering, if this really is the dream team they voted for. Also though Obama has fell flat in Libya, with his lies. That pot is starting to boil. But also, as you know, my paths usually lead else where and when I am done, it will lead directly towards Obama. Madan, I was like so many not too long ago and I too did not like Mitt, I allowed the media to paint him as something he is not, until I saw him on 60 minutes and that interview changed my mind enough to go research this guy and I like what I have found. He will now get my vote and his positives are spreading. Now as far as Mr. Ryan, I have liked him from the start, he is a guy that wants to work together, just as his boss (to be LOL) has proven in Mass., as the governor. Madan, us Americans are so sick and tired of most politicians feeling they are there to work to keep their job and not to do the peoples work. Yes, these guys are very refreshing. As always, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Thanks Denise for a detailed and convincing analysis. Biden did come out as condescending and treated Ryan as a pushover. I am just a "bystander" but I do hope there is bipartisan efforts at tackling mjor issues of not only America but also the world. I want democracy and freedom to thrive to newer heights. These political theatrics make people cynical - siva

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author avatar Denise O
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Siva, I am with you on this, we need to get things done and just stop the bleeding that is happening here and around the world. Do not think for a minute I only consider America when I am voting, my heart has always belonged to the world, that was set in motion at 4 months old, as I was flying to Japan and then spent almost 5 years there. We traveled here and there in the US and then we went to Guam and then I knew I was a citizen of the world. Yes my country does come first but, I want you to know, the world is a close second. I too want peace and no war but, our enemies are getting more bold than ever. We need clear heads in charge. As always, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar Teila
14th Oct 2012 (#)

Excellent job Denise!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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author avatar Denise O
15th Oct 2012 (#)

Thank you Teila for your kind words, it means a lot. As always, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar Robb714
15th Oct 2012 (#)

A very nice piece, Dennis and good resource for the facts, speaking of which, so far the record, pardon the pun, speaks for itself, whenever a certain party shows up, they lose standings in the polls. Not mentioning any names but someone is trying to get out of the last debate, Romney should show up anyway, after all, it wouldn't be much different than the first one.

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author avatar Denise O
15th Oct 2012 (#)

I see no reason why any person that is trying to be re-elected or just elected should go answer our questions, we deserve it. I have not heard of this as of yet. My grandson is here today and on Monday's Gammy gets him all day, love it but, it is time consuming. I have a few articles I am trying to get together before tomorrow nights debate, I am going to be burning the midnight oil, that's for sure.LOL
As always, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar Clarence Schreiber
16th Oct 2012 (#)

Very well written article. I have to agree with you. The vice president was very rude during the debate and he should have given more respect to Paul Ryan. Thank you for insights in this article.

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author avatar Denise O
16th Oct 2012 (#)

So true Clarence and also, he is a proven liar, as I just proved and I have so much more. I just have my grandson (all day & night, alone) for the last few days, soon his daddy and granddaddy will be home, as they have just gotten off of work. Then I can continue. As always, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar GV Rama Rao
16th Oct 2012 (#)

Very nice presentation, but I am sorry I can't comment. All I can say is it made a good read.

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author avatar Denise O
16th Oct 2012 (#)

Thank you for the nice words. Sorry you are not able to comment, it is in black and white, America's VP is a idiotic liar. But any ways, thank you for stopping by.:)

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author avatar Fern Mc Costigan
18th Oct 2013 (#)

Politics is a hot topic and you cover it very well, hope you cna read a post about Hillary, hope tog et your kind feedback, very interesting post, Joe Biden will never be presidential material for sure!Nice post, cheers!

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