Why Poetry Does Not Pay Well on the Internet

Mark Gordon BrownStarred Page By Mark Gordon Brown, 11th Apr 2013 | Follow this author | RSS Feed | Short URL http://nut.bz/2n_5zy5c/
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Many people write poetry online, myself included, however people soon learn that writing poetry does not pay well. If you were promised high earnings for poetry, please realize it may not be the case.

Not All Websites Accept Poetry

Many websites that pay people to write for them, or pay for views, do not accept poetry. For example Knoji, ExpertsPages, and many others, do not accept poetry. They what factual articles, and factual articles only.

Wikinut is one of the few places, along with Triond, that does accept poetry, but poets who only write for the money are not going to get rich quick.

I should note that a true poet would never write just for the money. They write because their soul needs to.

Reasons Why Poetry Does Not Pay Well Online

There are several reasons why poetry does not pay well.

Firstly consider the amount of competition. Even on Wikinut, if I moderate 10 articles in a day, usually 6 to 8 will be poetry. If you look at it there are so many poems online, it is hard to get views on just one.

Next remember that few people are searching online for poetry. When you do online searches, how many searches are for poetry compared to facts about something, or an article on "how to" do something? Now even if you do look up poetry, remember the first thing mentioned, the Internet is flooded with poems.

Also most poems are short, under 100 words. Search engines (such as Google) often will not show articles under 300 words (they feel short articles have nothing valuable to say) so a short poem is seldom offered to people doing a search even if they are searching for poetry!

Finally, as most poems are short, they are quick to read. Some websites do not register a short visit as a legitimate view, so even though people might be reading the poem, the paying advertisers do not consider a short view to be worth paying for.

How to Earn More on your Online Poems

It can be a good idea to include 2 or 3 poems on one article, for Wikinut each poem can be its own "section" - use the Add New Section feature. This increases your word count, which will make search engines happy.

Adding at least one photo (either your own or one from a copyright free source -not Bing or Google Images) can help keep people on your page a little longer.

Always link to two or three other poems (or related articles). Having outgoing links increases your SEO as does having incoming links, and people might just click on them to increase views. If you do not know how to add links to your Wikinut article, click here.

Promotion is very important in order to get views on poetry. You should add a link to your poems on Facebook, and tweet a link on Twitter, use 3 hash tags, #Poem #Poetry and another hasthag related to the topic of your poem, for example #Love or #Dogs.

Do not be Discouraged

Please do not be discouraged. For those who enjoy reading poetry, your writing has value and meaning. As a true poet you owe it to yourself to release your words to the world!

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Mark, you are so correct, I had been thinking for some time of writing about the challenges of poetry for some time - length of submissions seems to be the greatest challenge, the majority I moderate seem to be 75 to 100 words in length, indeed I have seen shorter, yet I remember classical poets, such as Wordsworth writing extensive, novel length poem and agree if they were longer they would impress the Internet more.

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Apr 2013 (#)

I do not seem to have any trouble with mine and my cosmic creation pieces were number 2 last week on google

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author avatar Isiekwene Anthony C.
11th Apr 2013 (#)

I take this as a challenge... Initialy I had joy in wriring little poems, but that has increased to a minimium of 500 characters by wikinut... But on my own, I willnow write Anthologies... Or descried Narrative poems from now on... Since they pour out from me whenever I am ready to put down any... My 1st will be out tommorow Morning... I promise myself that.... Then after that essays and reviews.

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author avatar Lady Aiyanna
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Mark, I am proving the popularity of poetry by writing for free and getting enough of acclaim for it. I never write for money but for the love of the art as that is the vent of the soul. All I need to do is put it to music and make it a song and I have recurring royalties that come through as songs are poetry with harmonisation.
You are a musician you know that and there are various sites that offer that kind of publicity too. The fact is poetry is straight from the heart and nothing can change the flow of words and emotion that flows with it. Its the content you have in the poetry that draws people in. Fact, I earned from poetry and honestly I crossed the 5 pound mark on Wikinut way before I left the site and you know the story as you were copied on all the emails too.
I got 10 pounds for my work and my poetry earned me more than writing prose and lyrical reviews and this is the truth as I went through each and every poem on my list every single day while I was there.
I had a total number of views coming to about 3000 a day and you know this as you saw the printscreens I sent Sam.
I love writing and honestly, I know how to get my views as I built up viewship to 30000 in just a month from the 25th of December 2011 when I crossed 100000 viewers to 3rd of February 2012 when the views were about 131000 or so.
I got paid for it, after a fight might I add, never copied you on the emails but I know what I did to get paid.
Poetry does pay and even got paid on Triond regularly for it. It takes time to build a foundation and an empire and most of all experience and brains.
Its not just about writing on Wikinut its about observing things and learning where the market is and providing accordingly. I just know my audience and know what to give them and how to generate my views to get my money.
Have had enough of jealous hearts around to show my poetry was deleted twice by friends who came hidden with their own life deficiencies just because they refused to change for the better and above all jealousy.
I showed you my style last year, I copied you in on a humourous Easter post last year and you took it badly, I just untagged you on it on Facebook realising you were not ready to see the true gift of my skill of writing.
I never share the secret of writing but its simple you have to feel it, envision it, know it and prove it. It comes with practice. I know my work and I know where my audience lies and above all, I have already got to the fact that I have written epic poems with I call lyrical art to get the audience asking for me.
Its just a gift from the heavens above, money just comes along with it when the time is right.

By Anisha Achankunju (C) Lady Aiyanna 12th April 2013

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author avatar Jonathan
11th Apr 2013 (#)

so why then do you write on other people's pages extolling your own virtues. Dont you have a place to publish all the poetry you say you do so well

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author avatar Stella Mitchell
24th Jun 2013 (#)

Yes Lady A. I agree with Jonathan here . When it comes to praise, you should wait for others to say they like your work , and I am sure there will be those who do. As for my poetry I leave others to say what they think , and they do , but you only take the idea we write about and add your own version on our pages . Why ?

Just to say also , Mark , thank you for this post . I love writing poetry as I am inspired , and I am grateful for the outlet of Wikinut as one of the sites I can share my poems with others on .
Bless you
Stella

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author avatar Retired
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Very helpful star page, dear Mark. Thanks for the great tips and insights. I had not known about the hash tag part...great idea.

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Apr 2013 (#)

yes a most informative page Mark...thank you

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author avatar David Reinstein,LCSW
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Alas, thou hast hit the nail on the head. Perhaps I should stick to writing humorous essays, product reviews and advice things instead. Do you see where this stream of thought has led? Time to go to bed...

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author avatar Lady Aiyanna
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Sorry Mark, you as a moderator should be encouraging them to write just like you did in December 2011. I know the love I had in Creating those articles and not all of the money pages were star pages.
Lost my stars twice with Johnny Dod and many pages were just left unstarred and honestly, you made me the writer I am as you encouraged me as a moderator behind the scenes and once or twice Johnny with his sexual predatory habits of trying to blow kisses from the moderator queue that I refused and resulting in the unstarring of two pages: The Land of Mystery Embodiment of Love - A Michael Jackson tribute and Michael Jackson - Choctaw Cherokee Dancer of the Dream.
Sorry Mark, wish you would would encourage writers like you did back then. They are like sheep too, have to be tended and nurtured with care to get the best wool....

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author avatar Mark Gordon Brown
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Lady Aiyanna, my article is not to discourage poets. I enjoy poetry very much, but rather to remind them that with poetry you wont necessarily make as much as you would with factual ORIGINAL articles.
I did mention that true poets write for the love of it, not for the money.

Not sure what you mean by "I showed you my style last year, I copied you in on a humourous Easter post last year and you took it badly, "

As I generally do not take things badly.
I do try to encourage which is why I added the last section telling people how to boost earnings if that is their concern.

Also not sure about your comments regarding Johnny. Seems a bit off topic to me.

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Apr 2013 (#)

Hi Mark i tweeted this because it is important information for poets...i did not know that Johnny sent kisses how about that!

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author avatar Mark Gordon Brown
11th Apr 2013 (#)

He never sent me any kisses!

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
11th Apr 2013 (#)


Why Poetry Does Not Pay Well on the Internet written by Mark Gordon Brown #poetry #poem #knowledge #internet

I tweeted this and it got retweeted!! great piece Mark...

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author avatar Delicia Powers
12th Apr 2013 (#)

I have always "thought in poetry"-
LOL- dashinh notes down on paper- then lose them and rewrite them a hundred times over again in my mind...the internet has been a wonderful way to save them for my family-and here on Wikinut share them with my friends-it is still amazes me to get such positive feed back...thanks Mark, great insights- and I know well your love of nature and poetry...this article is not to despair poetry but to advice us of the reality of numbers...Wikinut gives poetry a voice- I hope we all the poets sing loud- and who knows- we just might change that search engines target...LOL

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author avatar Delicia Powers
12th Apr 2013 (#)

Sorry, oops- should say-dashing
and-it still

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author avatar Retired
12th Apr 2013 (#)

I agree with you Mark. I write poetry to get my feelings out. It's a good release to vent my feelings instead of going off on the wrong person. ;-)

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author avatar Retired
12th Apr 2013 (#)

yeah true!

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author avatar David Reinstein,LCSW
12th Apr 2013 (#)

On a more serious note, Mark..l. this was a thoughtful, good and useful article. Thanks for it.David

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author avatar Md Rezaul Karim
12th Apr 2013 (#)

I write poems to release my pain and express my emotional outburst that sometimes I am occupied with.. Payment for it is already been done when I finished it sharing. Not in real monetary term, but in other ways- the good feelings.. healing...

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author avatar johnnydod
12th Apr 2013 (#)

You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by

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author avatar cnwriter..carolina
16th Apr 2013 (#)

love it Johnny!!!

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author avatar Sivaramakrishnan A
12th Apr 2013 (#)

Informative post with robust comments too - siva

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author avatar Retired
12th Apr 2013 (#)

As a poet who sends my
poems to be published in
papers and magazines, I
got paid well than sharing
them in Wikinut. Not every
one comes here for the $.
Stop poetry bashing, please.

I left this site because I was
tired of hearing the emphasis
on money making. My poem
Golden Conversation earned
me $200 dollars in a contest.

I didn't get any stars for any
of my articles but those same
pieces were published in print
and I made some money from
them. To me the star scheme
is just a sham for I see lots of
grammar mistakes in several
star-awarded articles. Wikinut
should be more encoraging to
poets because without poems
there will be no philosophers.

I return only to submit another
poem and engage with some
friends I have made in this site.

But with poetry being deemed
as not very income generating,
I think I better spend my time
elsewhere, where poems and
poets enjoy celebrity status.

Thanks for the insight, though.
My views may not be popular,
but we poets don't really care.

:)

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author avatar Susan Jane
14th Apr 2013 (#)

Excellent article and a great raft of comments.

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author avatar Carol
14th Apr 2013 (#)

Thank you Mark for a very informative article. I cannot write poetry, I am hopeless, but I love to read the beautiful work from others. I have been reading through the comments on here, and as I try not to take life too seriously, I find it very amusing, especially from Johnny. I did get a kiss from him once, but I gave one back, there is nothing lecherous about that, we all need to love a bit more in this world.

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author avatar krunesh kamboj
15th Apr 2013 (#)

Good points, Dear Mark

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author avatar C.D. Moore
15th Apr 2013 (#)

Thanks Mark. I didn't know about the hashtags either.

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
15th Apr 2013 (#)

I would like to add a further challenge poetry faces in being found. Google likes keywords to be used inside the page, but many of the poems I have moderated use keywords that are NOT used in the poem itself, yes it may be about the topic, but it is by implication not by words actually said.

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author avatar LOVERME
17th Apr 2013 (#)



I’m being read right across the Internet
many say how I get something, something,
yes featured right away
but sorry to say poets are always poor
They say in few words
and as for kisses I regret
Johnny knows me since past three years
a single kiss he hasn’t sent yet
perhaps he is afraid of scandal here.
Mark you make a point quite clear
but pay me not
give me no Star
I will compose virginous poems
as I have done so far
and I'm sure you will continue to preserve all your stars….

I need readers more
than blooming stars
and that one only reads mine
then does compose
and says all in her confidence repose
well all my friends and fans
who have stayed so long …
Mark is going to sing- a- song,
as we have stayed on this page a bit too long
and he has the luck,
we all should ourselves have found

Thanks Mark keep my star
and
Johnny do, send me kiss hahahaaha...

I am feeling jealous man,
anyone can kiss me
woman or man
I’m of kisses a hungry fan.

Hope this poem is long enough
for the search engines
that you say----
but poetry I shall continue to compose
my own unique though silly way.

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author avatar Songbird B
20th Apr 2013 (#)

I know when I first came to Wikinut, I was a poet and I was happy to wear that mantle, but have since added articles to my portfolio too, and enjoy stretching my writing ability to see just what I am capable of Mark. Poetry will always be my first love though.. An informative page my friend as always..\0/x

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author avatar Val Mills
20th Apr 2013 (#)

I agree with you about expecting payment for online poetry, that a true poet would never write just for the money. Do any of us here really write for money? I suspect most of us write because we love to. Informative article.

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author avatar johnnydod
20th Apr 2013 (#)

so so true Val i write because I just love it, and while we are talking about love heres a kiss for you xx and loverme xx and Bev xx and CD xx and sasan xx and cnwriter xx and Starrleena xx and deilica xx ans Rama xx and even lady a xx

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author avatar johnnydod
20th Apr 2013 (#)

and ALL the wonderful Lady's on Wikinut xxxxx

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author avatar LOVERME
3rd May 2013 (#)

To all ladies and lads
across wiki
free kisses from
meeeeee
take them or blow them away,
it’s your lips and cheeks to say ..
I have composed, many kissy poetry
so many have read and not paid a penny

here I donate all my kisses to you…
catch them for free will you
Wiki or not all poets are friends,
even jealous ones….

I have to make amends
I‘m a friend of all those
who love me here
I send bags of kisses
blowing all over the Internet
friendly ones take my kisses for free
but remember me
as time lapses
and you fold my kisses
then a tear will come
out of your eye
why was Loveme not shy
ere saying good bye…

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author avatar Kingwell
10th May 2013 (#)

It's true that one will never get rich writing poetry for the Internet.

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author avatar Phyllis Smith A.
13th May 2013 (#)

Thank you, Mark, for this informative, truthful article.

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author avatar Creativepro
26th May 2013 (#)

Good write up with sincere efforts..

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author avatar renukakkar
5th Jun 2013 (#)

I have written 100 plus poems in English and about 50+ in Hindi. They are all over the net and not on money making sites.I enjoy writing poems, and i write on any subject.

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author avatar Stella Mitchell
24th Jun 2013 (#)

Well Mark ...if nothing more than this ...you should earn a mint ... a star .. and maybe ..yes.. a Kiss ..on this page of comments alone ..Now , remind me , What was the subject about ??
God bless all you lovely Wikinutters and all the rest as well ....Mwa Mwa :-X

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3rd Dec 2013 (#)

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